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Spooled91 · 11-07-2009, 03:56 PM

got this stock b18b1 in my del sol ... 43,xxx miles on it.. deciding if i should pull the motor out this winter and start fully building it(will take a few months) or should i buy a b16 head, send it to a machine shop, slap it on, boost, and keep internals stock for now n slowly build it?(could be a fast process).... let me know what your opinions are and why ...

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Got traction · 11-07-2009, 04:08 PM

what is your defination of build?

fastrxu · 11-07-2009, 04:12 PM

Fully building the ls for boost, or all motor?

I would do ls-t

.mattyz_ · 11-07-2009, 04:12 PM

Why do LS/VTEC + boost? It should be either or, at least in my opinion. LS/VTEC setups are already not very reliable themselves, adding forced induction would only make it less reliable methinks.

If anything, I would just slightly build your LS (if at all) with ARP headstuds and headgasket just to prevent headlift. Get a good turbo kit from GO-AUTOWORKS or something, and you'll be making a good amount of power for a cheap price.

Spooled91 · 11-07-2009, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got traction

what is your defination of build?

trying to make atleast 450whp when done on race/highboost...

fastrxu · 11-07-2009, 04:17 PM

^^^ i like the idea and since that requires opening the engine i would do a block guard while your at it. THEN boost. Although you can safely boost a stock LS

Spooled91 · 11-07-2009, 04:35 PM

hmm i guess we will have to see ... since this post got me no where haha

93egSLEEPER · 11-07-2009, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .mattyz_

Why do LS/VTEC + boost? It should be either or, at least in my opinion. LS/VTEC setups are already not very reliable themselves, adding forced induction would only make it less reliable methinks.

If anything, I would just slightly build your LS (if at all) with ARP headstuds and headgasket just to prevent headlift. Get a good turbo kit from GO-AUTOWORKS or something, and you'll be making a good amount of power for a cheap price.

this is the common misconception. LSvtec builds are now very popular and very reliable when they are done correctly. i have been running mine for over a year now as well as many of my friends over 2 years, all boosted. LS-T is fun, but all it takes is a vtec head and you open up a whole new wprld of power and potential. just keep in mind i made 340whp on .54 trim turbo @14 psi and my buddies LS-T on 17psi with a .57 trim turbo barely hit 300whp. As long as the lsv is built correctly you will safely and reliably make more power day in and day out.

93egSLEEPER · 11-07-2009, 04:50 PM

OP i did an all OEM build on my car as well, no forged internals, just head studs and rod bolts w/ a gsr oil pump and water pump

megaman_x · 11-07-2009, 07:03 PM

go with the b16....do your self a favor and save ur self a headache

es01civy · 11-08-2009, 12:41 AM

Why would he spend the money on another engine when he already had one?? and downgrading?? I got a b16 there junk there rev happy motors.. Save the money get a vtec head (make sure you tap it for vtec) and slap it on. You dont have to spend tons of money for a lsv conversion. You can buy a t-fitting and line at a local hardware store and tap it into your oil pressure switch on your block will do the samething just not as fancy...

boxeocampeon · 11-08-2009, 01:38 AM

pull the motor and rebuild the bottom end

jcdimvic · 11-08-2009, 11:40 AM

Personally I would do the LSvtec now and start saving up until u have ALL the cash and then tear it down and build it. I got a good buddy that has been running a LSV for over a year and hes got over 30k miles on it, and his old lady has a heavy foot. If you do them right they are reliable. I also had another buddy that did it on his teg and it lasted about a month, it all depends how you do it

11-07-2009, 04:08 PM	#2
Got traction Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: the sway, NW Posts: 441	Re: Opinions on my upcoming build!... CLICK what is your defination of build? __________________ www.flickr.com/photos/legitsinglecam EJ8 squad #675

11-07-2009, 04:12 PM	#3
fastrxu Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ciudad Obregon, Sonora Posts: 867	Re: Opinions on my upcoming build!... CLICK Fully building the ls for boost, or all motor? I would do ls-t

11-07-2009, 04:12 PM	#4
.mattyz_ Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: uʍop ǝpısdn Posts: 749	Re: Opinions on my upcoming build!... CLICK Why do LS/VTEC + boost? It should be either or, at least in my opinion. LS/VTEC setups are already not very reliable themselves, adding forced induction would only make it less reliable methinks. If anything, I would just slightly build your LS (if at all) with ARP headstuds and headgasket just to prevent headlift. Get a good turbo kit from GO-AUTOWORKS or something, and you'll be making a good amount of power for a cheap price. __________________ WESTCOASTFLAVA WESTCOASTFLAVA WESTCOASTFLAVA

11-07-2009, 04:17 PM	#6
fastrxu Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ciudad Obregon, Sonora Posts: 867	Re: Opinions on my upcoming build!... CLICK ^^^ i like the idea and since that requires opening the engine i would do a block guard while your at it. THEN boost. Although you can safely boost a stock LS

11-07-2009, 04:35 PM	#7
Spooled91 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 36	Re: Opinions on my upcoming build!... CLICK hmm i guess we will have to see ... since this post got me no where haha

11-07-2009, 04:50 PM	#9
93egSLEEPER Member 1993 Honda Civic My Garage Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 2,913	Re: Opinions on my upcoming build!... CLICK OP i did an all OEM build on my car as well, no forged internals, just head studs and rod bolts w/ a gsr oil pump and water pump __________________ Daily-97 suby wagon- AT, AC and AWD Project--93 EJ1- LSV-T 340whp/258tq & The Beast--1970 CHEVELLE "I have never met more haters til the day I bought my Honda"

11-07-2009, 07:03 PM	#10
megaman_x Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: the ManCave Posts: 195	Re: Opinions on my upcoming build!... CLICK go with the b16....do your self a favor and save ur self a headache __________________ cheddar cheese...SOLD American Cheese...SOLD Swiss Cheese...SOLD Pimp Cheese...in the making

11-08-2009, 12:41 AM	#11
es01civy Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Town of dreams Posts: 89	Re: Opinions on my upcoming build!... CLICK Why would he spend the money on another engine when he already had one?? and downgrading?? I got a b16 there junk there rev happy motors.. Save the money get a vtec head (make sure you tap it for vtec) and slap it on. You dont have to spend tons of money for a lsv conversion. You can buy a t-fitting and line at a local hardware store and tap it into your oil pressure switch on your block will do the samething just not as fancy...

11-08-2009, 01:38 AM	#12
boxeocampeon Junior Member 1998 Honda Civic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bay Area Posts: 653	Re: Opinions on my upcoming build!... CLICK pull the motor and rebuild the bottom end __________________ DC Projects 1410 Concord Ave Ste A-1 Concord CA 94520 925 288 9388

11-08-2009, 11:40 AM	#13
jcdimvic Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 77	Re: Opinions on my upcoming build!... CLICK Personally I would do the LSvtec now and start saving up until u have ALL the cash and then tear it down and build it. I got a good buddy that has been running a LSV for over a year and hes got over 30k miles on it, and his old lady has a heavy foot. If you do them right they are reliable. I also had another buddy that did it on his teg and it lasted about a month, it all depends how you do it

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