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EastSideRacer · 11-05-2009, 09:26 PM

Hey guys,

new to this forum so I will hope you will find this thread interesting.
I have removed my k20a3 and have invested in both a 2007 TSX k24a2 2.4 l i-vtech with the RBB manifold.
Also as for the engine management I have an AEM EMS for the k-series model 30-1030. Now I have some questions and I hope someone else has tried this swap before. My question is this if the EMS replaces the stock ecu. Then I am wondering if the wire harness from the TSX can be used, as well as the electronic throttle body from the TSX.
Including sensors.
But i guess that depends on witch wire harness is used.
Anyways here are some pics i will have more shortly.
I am a bit unsure wicth way to go with this.

Thanks guys

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EastSideRacer · 11-05-2009, 11:39 PM

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EastSideRacer · 11-06-2009, 07:38 PM

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ROCKSTAR RX8 · 11-07-2009, 07:50 AM

TSXs wiring harness is different, hence that's why when people with TSXs upgrates to K Pros they need to run dual ECU... you can only use some sensors off that K24 but not all.

mustclime · 11-07-2009, 03:15 PM

Wow, way to do things the hard way. If you got kpro, you could use the ep3 harness, waterpump/ therastat housing and t/b for a rather easy install. Hondadata even have a map for this.

EastSideRacer · 11-08-2009, 05:15 AM

Thanks
Well I am happy to know that k-pro is the best solution. I guess then I will use the k-20's sensors, maybe I can get a bit of $ for it.
While we are on the subject, what's the recommendations for handling sensors?
Like avoid contact with ?* chemical.
Storing or cleaning them?

I will have a look on Hondata's site about the use of the tb. I wonder if the pedal / cable requires? To work.
Anyways would have had it on except missing a motor mount. Arrived later then planned.

I will try to film one funny ass back alley ghetto style engine swap.
Gotta love the ghetto.
You can get away with some crazy shit!

I also wanted to know about the coils from the TSX are much better then mine. I wanted to use them. I can only assume they are the same.
I wanted to know about opening these wire harnesses. Never done it.

Other then that cosmetics are looking fine.
Gonna put a few pics later.

Thanks guys

SkoundrelUSA · 11-08-2009, 11:16 AM

Did you get this engine off Eric in Allentown, PA?

Just finished my 08 TSX swap

I can try to help ya with answers, but yeah you really should go with KPro + the EP3 wire harness. much simpler.

EastSideRacer · 11-08-2009, 01:36 PM

Yeah I think any other way is difficult.
You say you have the same set up?
I would love to know how it feels and your comments on how drives and how it differs from the tiny loud ass k20a3.

SkoundrelUSA · 11-08-2009, 04:55 PM

Yeah, its an 08 but same shit.

I am very pleased with the power (TORQUE!). Its a real night and day difference. Even at like partial throttle it feels stronger than the A3.

EastSideRacer · 11-08-2009, 08:38 PM

Funny how this makes this all worth while.
Did you need to change the exhaust mani?
I mean looks the same but i did not caliper measured it.
If you used some sub model substitute witch one was it?
Thanks.

SkoundrelUSA · 11-08-2009, 09:39 PM

I have heard the stock EP3 header clears the sway bar ok on 02-03 EP3s. Not sure about 04-05 sway bars. But I used a DC Race Header so i don't know. The DC rattles against the sway bar on my car right now which is pretty annoying.

EastSideRacer · 11-09-2009, 03:45 AM

Well sorted it out by replacing the exhaust elastics by general use ones by cheaper rubber stiffer then the stock. Tire pressure is also a factor they must be the same. Otherwise they rattle more. But yes the elastics should do it. A 20 at Autozone should do it. I miss the Cali sun.

DaveSi677 · 11-09-2009, 08:20 AM

You miss the Cali sun get ready for the Montreal cold and snow buddy!!!

EastSideRacer · 11-09-2009, 03:12 PM

I know born here, studied 4 years in Vegas. Don't ask...
Guys I got a stuck tie rod.
Got a work around?

EastSideRacer · 11-09-2009, 09:06 PM

Just tell me what you think about this:

mustclime · 11-10-2009, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EastSideRacer

I know born here, studied 4 years in Vegas. Don't ask...
Guys I got a stuck tie rod.
Got a work around?

order one of these....

http://www.etoolcart.com/balljointseparatorotc6297.aspx

get the spx tool, the cheaper ones are crap and they will brake.....It also works on the lower balljoint.
The trick to suing them is you put a load one the tool, then smack the load side with a hammer....."POP"....joints apart.

11-05-2009, 11:39 PM	#2
EastSideRacer Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 23	Re: EP3 02 engine swap with TSX 07 help! O Last edited by EastSideRacer; 11-08-2009 at 05:18 AM.

11-06-2009, 07:38 PM	#3
EastSideRacer Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 23	Re: EP3 02 engine swap with TSX 07 help! K Last edited by EastSideRacer; 11-08-2009 at 05:18 AM.

11-07-2009, 07:50 AM	#4
ROCKSTAR RX8 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 25	Re: EP3 02 engine swap with TSX 07 help! TSXs wiring harness is different, hence that's why when people with TSXs upgrates to K Pros they need to run dual ECU... you can only use some sensors off that K24 but not all. __________________ 08 SPOON TSX #57 ~wife 08 JIC Magic Time-Attack FG2 #58 ~driver 06 SPOON DC5R ST#59 ~ my track whore

11-07-2009, 03:15 PM	#5
mustclime Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: fortree, nj Posts: 378	Re: EP3 02 engine swap with TSX 07 help! Wow, way to do things the hard way. If you got kpro, you could use the ep3 harness, waterpump/ therastat housing and t/b for a rather easy install. Hondadata even have a map for this. __________________ old cone killer

11-08-2009, 05:15 AM	#6
EastSideRacer Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 23	Re: EP3 02 engine swap with TSX 07 help! Thanks Well I am happy to know that k-pro is the best solution. I guess then I will use the k-20's sensors, maybe I can get a bit of $ for it. While we are on the subject, what's the recommendations for handling sensors? Like avoid contact with ?* chemical. Storing or cleaning them? I will have a look on Hondata's site about the use of the tb. I wonder if the pedal / cable requires? To work. Anyways would have had it on except missing a motor mount. Arrived later then planned. I will try to film one funny ass back alley ghetto style engine swap. Gotta love the ghetto. You can get away with some crazy shit! I also wanted to know about the coils from the TSX are much better then mine. I wanted to use them. I can only assume they are the same. I wanted to know about opening these wire harnesses. Never done it. Other then that cosmetics are looking fine. Gonna put a few pics later. Thanks guys

11-08-2009, 11:16 AM	#7
SkoundrelUSA Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Joisy, USA Posts: 6,716	Re: EP3 02 engine swap with TSX 07 help! Did you get this engine off Eric in Allentown, PA? Just finished my 08 TSX swap I can try to help ya with answers, but yeah you really should go with KPro + the EP3 wire harness. much simpler. __________________ "So whats the deal with politics? I don't get it...Am I right people? "

11-08-2009, 01:36 PM	#8
EastSideRacer Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 23	Re: EP3 02 engine swap with TSX 07 help! Yeah I think any other way is difficult. You say you have the same set up? I would love to know how it feels and your comments on how drives and how it differs from the tiny loud ass k20a3.

11-08-2009, 04:55 PM	#9
SkoundrelUSA Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Joisy, USA Posts: 6,716	Re: EP3 02 engine swap with TSX 07 help! Yeah, its an 08 but same shit. I am very pleased with the power (TORQUE!). Its a real night and day difference. Even at like partial throttle it feels stronger than the A3. __________________ "So whats the deal with politics? I don't get it...Am I right people? "

11-08-2009, 08:38 PM	#10
EastSideRacer Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 23	Re: EP3 02 engine swap with TSX 07 help! Funny how this makes this all worth while. Did you need to change the exhaust mani? I mean looks the same but i did not caliper measured it. If you used some sub model substitute witch one was it? Thanks.

11-08-2009, 09:39 PM	#11
SkoundrelUSA Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Joisy, USA Posts: 6,716	Re: EP3 02 engine swap with TSX 07 help! I have heard the stock EP3 header clears the sway bar ok on 02-03 EP3s. Not sure about 04-05 sway bars. But I used a DC Race Header so i don't know. The DC rattles against the sway bar on my car right now which is pretty annoying. __________________ "So whats the deal with politics? I don't get it...Am I right people? "

11-09-2009, 03:45 AM	#12
EastSideRacer Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 23	Re: EP3 02 engine swap with TSX 07 help! Well sorted it out by replacing the exhaust elastics by general use ones by cheaper rubber stiffer then the stock. Tire pressure is also a factor they must be the same. Otherwise they rattle more. But yes the elastics should do it. A 20 at Autozone should do it. I miss the Cali sun.

11-09-2009, 08:20 AM	#13
DaveSi677 HT White Ops Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: montreal, canada Posts: 3,991	Re: EP3 02 engine swap with TSX 07 help! You miss the Cali sun get ready for the Montreal cold and snow buddy!!! __________________ PSN: DaveSi677 2002 EP3 SiR Nighthawk Black 1993 EG Si Type-R Berlina Black RIP

11-09-2009, 03:12 PM	#14
EastSideRacer Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 23	Re: EP3 02 engine swap with TSX 07 help! I know born here, studied 4 years in Vegas. Don't ask... Guys I got a stuck tie rod. Got a work around?

11-09-2009, 09:06 PM	#15
EastSideRacer Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 23	Re: EP3 02 engine swap with TSX 07 help! Just tell me what you think about this: Last edited by EastSideRacer; 11-09-2009 at 09:07 PM. Reason: image url typo

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