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f3rnlude · 10-24-2009, 08:07 PM

hey what do i need to run hondata s300 on my h22 prelude???

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HdeucedeuceA · 10-25-2009, 12:02 AM

A computer with S300 installed, a basemap and a labtop to upload the basemap. If you want to do some street tuning you'll need a wideband. But that's about it.

PS the only H22 basemap on Hondatas software is for 440cc injectors, so you'll need someone to make you a basemap. Then to have it run right you'll need to install a wideband and street tune the A/F.

h22 kid · 10-25-2009, 02:02 AM

btw p13 is shitty to chip get p28 or p72 and add s300

street_ride14 · 10-25-2009, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by h22 kid

btw p13 is shitty to chip get p28 or p72 and add s300

You can not chip a p13 to run Hondata. Also, p28/p72 are the better choices, but are not the only ones.

h22 kid · 10-25-2009, 01:34 PM

yeah there not the only ones but they are the most popular ones

HdeucedeuceA · 10-25-2009, 02:41 PM

Also to be noted, is that a P28 doesn't have a knock sensor nor can it control the butterfly valves in the intake manifold.

NirVTEC · 10-26-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by h22 kid

btw p13 is shitty to chip get p28 or p72 and add s300

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Originally Posted by street_ride14

You can not chip a p13 to run Hondata. Also, p28/p72 are the better choices, but are not the only ones.

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Originally Posted by h22 kid

yeah there not the only ones but they are the most popular ones

I can't imagine what Virgin P28/P72s are going for these days.

robert@bisimoto · 10-26-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by f3rnlude

hey what do i need to run hondata s300 on my h22 prelude???

Pm'd you.

btwentyna · 10-26-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HdeucedeuceA

A computer with S300 installed, a basemap and a labtop to upload the basemap. If you want to do some street tuning you'll need a wideband. But that's about it.

PS the only H22 basemap on Hondatas software is for 440cc injectors, so you'll need someone to make you a basemap. Then to have it run right you'll need to install a wideband and street tune the A/F.

might be a noob question but idk so,

what exactly is the basemap and what is it for? thanks

h22 kid · 10-26-2009, 05:09 PM

i got my p72 with s300 for 600

thiskid0001 · 10-26-2009, 05:51 PM

i got my p28 for 80 bucks

HdeucedeuceA · 10-26-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by btwentyna

might be a noob question but idk so,

what exactly is the basemap and what is it for? thanks

I'd suggest doing some reading before you go with S300. A basemap is ether an educated quess to get you in the general direction for your motor or it's a map from a different car. Ether way it needs to be tuned for your specific set up.

I bought my S300 professionally installed in a P28 for $550 shipped; lucky find.

btwentyna · 10-27-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HdeucedeuceA

I'd suggest doing some reading before you go with S300. A basemap is ether an educated quess to get you in the general direction for your motor or it's a map from a different car. Ether way it needs to be tuned for your specific set up.

I bought my S300 professionally installed in a P28 for $550 shipped; lucky find.

wow that is a great deal, ok so its just where u start off from tuning and work from there.
so u had a shop make u a basemap when they installed it?
wat car did u run it for?

btwentyna · 10-27-2009, 11:35 PM

ok so the smanager has preset maps under the calibrations and then from there u can just upload it to the ecu http://www.hondata.com/help/smanager/index.html, then work on it from there, right?

edit: ahhw which is exactly what i missed in the second post....

HdeucedeuceA · 10-28-2009, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by btwentyna

wow that is a great deal, ok so its just where u start off from tuning and work from there.
so u had a shop make u a basemap when they installed it?
wat car did u run it for?

Exactly, a basemap is just a starting point and shouldn't be driven hard.

I bought a basemap from Motoxxman; I don't know if he's on here or not though. If I would of had a wideband and alittle more knowlege at the time, I would've just made a map myself.

I bought the P28/S300 off a guy on ************. It was brand new and came with a reciet. And I'm using it on my H22A 4th gen Prelude.

EDIT HT doesn't like Prelude Power lol

btwentyna · 10-28-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HdeucedeuceA

Exactly, a basemap is just a starting point and shouldn't be driven hard.

I bought a basemap from Motoxxman; I don't know if he's on here or not though. If I would of had a wideband and alittle more knowlege at the time, I would've just made a map myself.

I bought the P28/S300 off a guy on ************. It was brand new and came with a reciet. And I'm using it on my H22A 4th gen Prelude.

EDIT HT doesn't like Prelude Power lol

Nice, yea im gonna see how i can use the smanager to make my own also, but im not sure to use the stock p28 map or the stock b20 map... any suggestions?

HdeucedeuceA · 10-28-2009, 11:19 PM

I know some tuners use a different map off of an integra for a starting point, but I'm not sure which one. I think it's a GSR map or something.

Do you have a wideband? I'd use the H22 map supplied with Smanage and tune the A/F.

hdragster · 10-29-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HdeucedeuceA

I know some tuners use a different map off of an integra for a starting point, but I'm not sure which one. I think it's a GSR map or something.

Do you have a wideband? I'd use the H22 map supplied with Smanage and tune the A/F.

How much did they charge you for a calibration? I have a map that I made myself, with a perfect airfuel of 13.1-13.3 from 4000rpm till 7500rpm.

HdeucedeuceA · 10-29-2009, 11:43 PM

^I think it was like $40, that was just a waste. The map was VERY rich and retarted. I removed 20% fuel just to get me in the ball park to actually start tuning it. What a waste of money.

I found a H22A7(Accord Type R) map on Hondata's forums, that I'm currently using; after some tuning of course. It has alot more timing than the basemap I bought(10ish* at WOT). My partial throttle power is MUCH better and their's noticably more power at WOT.

btwentyna · 10-30-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HdeucedeuceA

I know some tuners use a different map off of an integra for a starting point, but I'm not sure which one. I think it's a GSR map or something.

Do you have a wideband? I'd use the H22 map supplied with Smanage and tune the A/F.

no i dont have a wideband, and yea i seen the stock b72 92-95 b18c gsr map so either that or stock b20?

HdeucedeuceA · 10-30-2009, 02:04 PM

^A wideband is a must other wise your blindly running a map and have no way to know what's going on.

btwentyna · 11-03-2009, 04:02 PM

im not sure i know if i have them is it an aftermarket program or is it stock?

jnv255 · 11-03-2009, 04:30 PM

My P28 was 18$ from the junkyard.

btwentyna · 11-03-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jnv255

My P28 was 18$ from the junkyard.

damn u came upp!

HdeucedeuceA · 11-04-2009, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by btwentyna

im not sure i know if i have them is it an aftermarket program or is it stock?

I have no clue what you're trying to say. If it's tuning related, RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH.

10-25-2009, 12:02 AM	#2
HdeucedeuceA Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Clatskanie, OR, USA Posts: 256	Re: hondata s300 A computer with S300 installed, a basemap and a labtop to upload the basemap. If you want to do some street tuning you'll need a wideband. But that's about it. PS the only H22 basemap on Hondatas software is for 440cc injectors, so you'll need someone to make you a basemap. Then to have it run right you'll need to install a wideband and street tune the A/F. __________________ Chaz 92 Prelude Si; soon to be Mugen kitted

10-25-2009, 02:02 AM	#3
h22 kid Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Anaheim, CA, 92805 Posts: 475	Re: hondata s300 btw p13 is shitty to chip get p28 or p72 and add s300

10-25-2009, 01:34 PM	#5
h22 kid Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Anaheim, CA, 92805 Posts: 475	Re: hondata s300 yeah there not the only ones but they are the most popular ones

10-25-2009, 02:41 PM	#6
HdeucedeuceA Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Clatskanie, OR, USA Posts: 256	Re: hondata s300 Also to be noted, is that a P28 doesn't have a knock sensor nor can it control the butterfly valves in the intake manifold. __________________ Chaz 92 Prelude Si; soon to be Mugen kitted

10-26-2009, 05:09 PM	#10
h22 kid Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Anaheim, CA, 92805 Posts: 475	Re: hondata s300 i got my p72 with s300 for 600

10-26-2009, 05:51 PM	#11
thiskid0001 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: las vegas,nv Posts: 26	Re: hondata s300 i got my p28 for 80 bucks

10-27-2009, 11:35 PM	#14
btwentyna Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SF and SJ Posts: 17	Re: hondata s300 ok so the smanager has preset maps under the calibrations and then from there u can just upload it to the ecu http://www.hondata.com/help/smanager/index.html, then work on it from there, right? edit: ahhw which is exactly what i missed in the second post....

10-28-2009, 11:19 PM	#17
HdeucedeuceA Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Clatskanie, OR, USA Posts: 256	Re: hondata s300 I know some tuners use a different map off of an integra for a starting point, but I'm not sure which one. I think it's a GSR map or something. Do you have a wideband? I'd use the H22 map supplied with Smanage and tune the A/F. __________________ Chaz 92 Prelude Si; soon to be Mugen kitted

10-29-2009, 11:43 PM	#19
HdeucedeuceA Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Clatskanie, OR, USA Posts: 256	Re: hondata s300 ^I think it was like $40, that was just a waste. The map was VERY rich and retarted. I removed 20% fuel just to get me in the ball park to actually start tuning it. What a waste of money. I found a H22A7(Accord Type R) map on Hondata's forums, that I'm currently using; after some tuning of course. It has alot more timing than the basemap I bought(10ish* at WOT). My partial throttle power is MUCH better and their's noticably more power at WOT. __________________ Chaz 92 Prelude Si; soon to be Mugen kitted

10-30-2009, 02:04 PM	#21
HdeucedeuceA Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Clatskanie, OR, USA Posts: 256	Re: hondata s300 ^A wideband is a must other wise your blindly running a map and have no way to know what's going on. __________________ Chaz 92 Prelude Si; soon to be Mugen kitted

11-03-2009, 04:02 PM	#22
btwentyna Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SF and SJ Posts: 17	Re: hondata s300 im not sure i know if i have them is it an aftermarket program or is it stock?

11-03-2009, 04:30 PM	#23
jnv255 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: In the shadow of the spear Posts: 514	Re: hondata s300 My P28 was 18$ from the junkyard. __________________ 643hp on wastegate Another broke 11B (Infantry)

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