I Thought I Knew EVERYTHING ITR RELATED...DIDNT KNOW THIS

[EG6-DC2]

Oh and getting off topic about the yellow EG seats....they are listed in brochures and they can be ordered with a part # You guys can dream enough about how these seats are OEM b/c a dealer ordered them....Do you really think that Honda will specially make 2 or 3 rear seats?

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[bluebomber]

Still waiting to hear how these aren't an OEM part, except for EG6-DC2 stating how he believes them not to be.

Bottom line is, I don't care whether or not you think they are OEM. I was told they are. They look the part. They use the jersey fabric that Recaro only sells to Honda, not to "dealer shops" that make custom crap for cars.

Until someone contacts Honda of Japan and gets a response that says, "No, these were not offered by us for 97 E-DB8 Type-R's, and that is an aftermarket piece", then there is nothing to prove they aren't, and quite a bit of evidence that proves these ARE an OEM piece.

[turbo97coupe]

i personally havent owned either the red or yellow rears i just explained word for word what the guy told me when i was in japan , the thing i dont get is how can a outside company do it when the fabric in the middle of the seats is for honda use only . you cant purchase it . i mean the yellow rears i seen is his car were a 100% identical match to the front yellow seats .
also do u happen to have the part number for the yellow eg6 front and rear seats ?
ive been trying to find a set for ages lol

[jdmda7]

Who gives a ****, the seats look great either way.

[vivid 02]

Crazyness!!!!

New ITR stuff pops up every once in a while even though its been years since they were last mfg.

[YellowKahuna]

Originally Posted by jdmda7

Who gives a ****, the seats look great either way.

Not for $3000 lol

[bluebomber]

Originally Posted by YellowKahuna

Not for $3000 lol

Not for you

Expensive is a relative term. To some people 100 dollars is expensive.

[floatfisher]

Originally Posted by ITR640

I do enjoy seeing rare parts.... but am I the only one who thinks the red seats are ugly? I like the recaros in red (would prefer in black) but the base integra seat covered in red is just... dare i say ugly. The back seats are ok but still ugly.

edit: I bet the price is something completely rediculous like 4 or 5 grand

im with u...i dont really like them either

[get RIGHT]

As a 15 year Honda dealer employee, I can safely say that there was never a dealer option for colored rear seats. Not in the US and not in Japan. EG6-DC2 is 100% correct for every part that Honda makes whether it is a standard part or an optioned part it is catalouged. 100% no exceptions. If it is not in the catalouge then it simply did not exist from Honda.

Originally Posted by turbo97coupe

^^^^^^ what part of SPECIAL ORDER PART MADE BY HONDA dont you understand lol its not in the catalog because it wasnt a readily available option u had to request it ,but the seats were not made by a outside company they were made by honda .

Because it doesn't exist, get your facts straight. You can't make these wild special order parts like you claim. Not then. Not now. Not ever.

[YellowKahuna]

Originally Posted by bluebomber

Not for you

Expensive is a relative term. To some people 100 dollars is expensive.

For $3000 I can get a full Hytech exhaust with some cams, springs and retainers. I'd rather get this stuff instead of a back seat LOL

[NOFX]

Originally Posted by bluebomber

Still waiting to hear how these aren't an OEM part, except for EG6-DC2 stating how he believes them not to be.

Bottom line is, I don't care whether or not you think they are OEM. I was told they are. They look the part. They use the jersey fabric that Recaro only sells to Honda, not to "dealer shops" that make custom crap for cars.

Until someone contacts Honda of Japan and gets a response that says, "No, these were not offered by us for 97 E-DB8 Type-R's, and that is an aftermarket piece", then there is nothing to prove they aren't, and quite a bit of evidence that proves these ARE an OEM piece.

As cool as it might be that these would be OEM, saying that since we don't have a certified letter from Honda of Japan stating that they are not OEM they must be OEM is foolish and backwards.

Originally Posted by jdmda7

Who gives a ****, the seats look great either way.

Some of us just would like to know because this is interesting to us. I'm sure it's interesting to know to some ITR owners.

I would also have to agree with YellowKahuna.

Originally Posted by bluebomber

Not for you

Expensive is a relative term. To some people 100 dollars is expensive.

It might be relative, but say these are just reupholstered seats. That is expensive for a set of stock seats with aftermarket covers. I'm sure everyone would agree on that.

Originally Posted by get RIGHT

As a 15 year Honda dealer employee, I can safely say that there was never a dealer option for colored rear seats. Not in the US and not in Japan. EG6-DC2 is 100% correct for every part that Honda makes whether it is a standard part or an optioned part it is catalouged. 100% no exceptions. If it is not in the catalouge then it simply did not exist from Honda.

Because it doesn't exist, get your facts straight. You can't make these wild special order parts like you claim. Not then. Not now. Not ever.

Which is interesting too because there are a ton of parts out there that most people never even knew were optional from Honda. Some of these parts I never hear a peep about and I've never even seen, so I can only assume are rare. But they definitely exist.

Sort of like the Coolbox, bike lift, or OEM lowered suspension.

[NOFX]

Originally Posted by turbo97coupe

i personally havent owned either the red or yellow rears i just explained word for word what the guy told me when i was in japan , the thing i dont get is how can a outside company do it when the fabric in the middle of the seats is for honda use only . you cant purchase it . i mean the yellow rears i seen is his car were a 100% identical match to the front yellow seats .
also do u happen to have the part number for the yellow eg6 front and rear seats ?
ive been trying to find a set for ages lol

I'm sure some company makes or made similar fabric.

Perhaps Honda could even give permission for the fabric to be used if a dealership ordered custom seats from a local shop?

Either way, I don't see anything proving these seats to be OEM. I do see a lot of things showing it to be doubtful that they are OEM.

- The part does not appear in the parts catalog.
- The part does not appear in the Honda Access catalog.
- The part does not appear in the brochures.
- The only "proof" being cited is that someone who wanted to sell the seats for $800 said they were OEM. The seller had something to gain ($800).

I have seen plenty of people selling parts claiming they were OEM or JDM. Never did I take that to be any sort of proof that those parts were what they said they were. If it was a believable claim, I would research it before I stated it to be OEM or from a certain market.

Originally Posted by turbo97coupe

sorry but you should be fired from your job ,because you can defiantly get special order parts on your BRAND NEW car, its called dealer outsourcing ,convertible crx as example , i was never saying i had proof from honda the seats were oem but i have seen them in person and they were a 100% match to the fronts and was told by the guy driving the car it was a option , so it wasn't my facts i clearly explained i was simply repeating what i was told by the guy in japan with the yellow rears ,either way this argument has became pointless as none of us have concrete proof there OEM or not , just nothing but a bunch of assumptions.

Right, but dealer outsourcing is not a "SPECIAL ORDER PART MADE BY HONDA". The example of the CRX convertibles is a poor example since we all already know they were produced by another company and not by Honda. The deciding factor is if Honda (as a company) or just a particular Honda dealership ordered those conversions. Even then, I can assure you that you cannot purchase the convertible specific parts through the Honda parts catalog. The convertible doesn't even show up in the EPC even though more convertibles were produced than NSX Zanardi Editions were made. The Zanardi shows up in the EPC though because it was available through Honda.

I would say the convertible CRX is not an OEM option. I would say the same for these seats.

Originally Posted by turbo97coupe

also NoFx your my fav H-T member would you happen to know the OEM part number for the yellow eg6 seats ?

That would require a bit of research on my part unless they were ever available in other countries besides Japan. I have the Japanese catalog, but it's corrupt. The amount of information I can get from it is small and unfortunately does not include part numbers.

get RIGHT, I have always heard is a stand up guy who knows what he's talking about, specifically when it comes to ITRs. I wouldn't question him on what he says.

[turbo97coupe]

yea i was joking with him about the him needing to be fired comment lol so please dont take that the wrong way . and the special order comment was just simply what i was told from the guy who own the yellow rear set, ive never seen documents or any concrete proof . and the convertable Crx's i dont consider them Oem at all , i just used them as an example of a outsourced option .

oh NoFX and do u happen to know if carnival yellow eg6's were released anywhere besides japan ?

[bluebomber]

I guess no one will ever know then, considering there are quite a few people on here that can't possibly fathom these are OEM. Good for you guys, you win! They must be fake.

I think I'll just take them off my for sale thread and put them in my car. That way it won't matter if they're 100% OEM JDM, because AFAIC, they are, I don't care if anyone believes they are OEM, and I like them. There is enough evidence for me to believe they are OEM.

Also, if Turbo97coupe is right about 97 models having this as an option, I don't see why the dealers would have kept offering this as an option for future models if not enough people bought them. It would make sense that they stopped production on matching rear seats after the 97 model year if only a handful of people took advantage of it.

It's also possible that this option was introduced after the brochures were printed, so it might not be in print, although it was still available.

I really fail to see why this is so hard to understand.

[NOFX]

Originally Posted by turbo97coupe

yea i was joking with him about the him needing to be fired comment lol so please dont take that the wrong way . and the special order comment was just simply what i was told from the guy who own the yellow rear set, ive never seen documents or any concrete proof . and the convertable Crx's i dont consider them Oem at all , i just used them as an example of a outsourced option .

oh NoFX and do u happen to know if carnival yellow eg6's were released anywhere besides japan ?

I'm not sure about the EG6 seats. I've never really looked into 5th gens too much.

Originally Posted by bluebomber

I guess no one will ever know then, considering there are quite a few people on here that can't possibly fathom these are OEM. Good for you guys, you win! They must be fake.

I think I'll just take them off my for sale thread and put them in my car. That way it won't matter if they're 100% OEM JDM, because AFAIC, they are, I don't care if anyone believes they are OEM, and I like them. There is enough evidence for me to believe they are OEM.

Also, if Turbo97coupe is right about 97 models having this as an option, I don't see why the dealers would have kept offering this as an option for future models if not enough people bought them. It would make sense that they stopped production on matching rear seats after the 97 model year if only a handful of people took advantage of it.

It's also possible that this option was introduced after the brochures were printed, so it might not be in print, although it was still available.

I really fail to see why this is so hard to understand.

turbo97coupe hasn't showed proof of the true origin of the other seats either.

There has been no proof offered that these seats are OEM. The only proof posted is your hopes that they are.

It's great if you like them, but for the price you want, they need to be what you're advertising (or be something even better). So far there is no proof they are super rare OEM parts or super rare high dollar aftermarket parts (like Mugen, for example).

I really fail to see why this is so hard to understand.

[EG6-DC2]

Originally Posted by NOFX

That would require a bit of research on my part unless they were ever available in other countries besides Japan. I have the Japanese catalog, but it's corrupt. The amount of information I can get from it is small and unfortunately does not include part numbers.

You are right. It will take a bit of research, as no seat sold from Honda ever had just one part #. Every seat (to include rear seats) have a number of part #'s. One would basically have to completely build the seat on paper with all the correct plastic trim, bolts, fabrics, headrests, foam, frames, etc.... It is a lot of work to build out a seat and no one is willing to pay the costs to build a completely new seat.

[jdmda7]

I think nofx just likes to argue...

[EK4 hatchback]

Originally Posted by turbo97coupe

i personally havent owned either the red or yellow rears i just explained word for word what the guy told me when i was in japan , the thing i dont get is how can a outside company do it when the fabric in the middle of the seats is for honda use only . you cant purchase it . i mean the yellow rears i seen is his car were a 100% identical match to the front yellow seats .
also do u happen to have the part number for the yellow eg6 front and rear seats ?
ive been trying to find a set for ages lol

I got a used set.............and i will put in my EG4 once i have the car repaint yellow!!

[BlueIntegraBoy]

Originally Posted by jdmda7

I think nofx just likes to argue...

No, she likes to be thorough

[NOFX]

Originally Posted by EG6-DC2

You are right. It will take a bit of research, as no seat sold from Honda ever had just one part #. Every seat (to include rear seats) have a number of part #'s. One would basically have to completely build the seat on paper with all the correct plastic trim, bolts, fabrics, headrests, foam, frames, etc.... It is a lot of work to build out a seat and no one is willing to pay the costs to build a completely new seat.

Exactly.

The seat covers (fabric) have their own number. You can buy those hog nose clips in a pack even.

Here's an example of the images showing all the seat parts for an ITR. This, specifically is for a German 2000 Integra Type R hatch.


(The covers would include 2, 3, 5 and 6 here.)


The covers would include 5, 8 and 16 here.)

The part descriptions show the fronts come in NH1L (Black), R124L (Red) and Y55L (Yellow).

The part descriptions show the rears come in TYPE D (Grapite Black and Black/Red) and TYPE E (Black/Yellow).

Originally Posted by BlueIntegraBoy

No, she likes to be thorough

Yes and thank you.

[Jusdm]

IM calling honda of japan tomorrow and ask then about these seats..this is upsurve...lolol..

[turbo97coupe]

Originally Posted by EK4 hatchback

I got a used set.............and i will put in my EG4 once i have the car repaint yellow!!

sell them to me ! lol

[eyo888]

whoaaa...is this for real/authentic? any one has a pic of yellow rear seats(DB8,DC2)?

[-PaulMc-]

3k for rear seats? there ugly. Why are they so much? Did the Pope sit in them or something?

[itr1244]

something new for sure.

but i think i like the CDM one better