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mikeycivic · 03-13-2009, 07:28 AM

Ok guys I got my car painted a year ago and have had nothing but problems with the idiot painters that did it. For the most part the car looks good. I was waxing the car yesterday and notice a lot of "junk" under the clear and in the paint. Is this due to a a shitty gun, a shitty paint booth, or both? I still owe the shop money and I am really debating on fighting with them to respray the car. Can someone give me some insight thanks?

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iwanttokillgod · 03-13-2009, 08:49 AM

pics would help

mikeycivic · 03-13-2009, 09:23 AM

pics will come but basically there is shit under and in the clear coat, there are areas where it was wetsanded and polished and whatever was in the clear, took the clear and paint off with it. There is also a lot of what appears to be dirt (or specs) of something in the paint.

TunerN00b · 03-13-2009, 12:50 PM

Sounds like poor prep work left dirt and "junk" on the car which they painted over.

How do you owe the shop money a year after the work was done?

mikeycivic · 03-13-2009, 12:52 PM

LOL LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG story, and if I keep it, someone owes me a new paint job....

Jonathan_ED3 · 03-13-2009, 01:36 PM

....so, are you going to post pics?

mikeycivic · 03-13-2009, 01:41 PM

when i get my lens back, I cant get close enough pics with my 55-200mm lens.

KuEy · 03-13-2009, 02:13 PM

man. that sounds like poor prep work, bad guns, and a bad booth. you should either get a respray for their poor work.

mikeycivic · 03-13-2009, 02:16 PM

i got pics hold on

Paul-R · 03-13-2009, 02:22 PM

It sounds like you got a little over spray on the base coat and the clear coated over it, and second it sounds like they didn't mix the hardener right not mixing the hardener can cause chipping of the clear coat in some cases . With the over spray they must of sprayed some other job by your car and it got on you paint .

All in all a body shop is suppose to get the customers approval and OK about the jobs they do, if there is anything wrong upon picking up your vehicle we as body shop owners are suppose to correct it to meet your satisfaction, i run a body shop so i dealt with little complaints .

mikeycivic · 03-13-2009, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul-R

It sounds like you got a little over spray on the base coat and the clear coated over it, and second it sounds like they didn't mix the hardener right not mixing the hardener can cause chipping of the clear coat in some cases . With the over spray they must of sprayed some other job by your car and it got on you paint .

All in all a body shop is suppose to get the customers approval and OK about the jobs they do, if there is anything wrong upon picking up your vehicle we as body shop owners are suppose to correct it to meet your satisfaction, i run a body shop so i dealt with little complaints .

thats all i needed to hear here are some pics... this is throughout the WHOLE CAR

mikeycivic · 03-13-2009, 08:36 PM

hondaZvic · 03-13-2009, 08:41 PM

trash in the paint/ under the clear... :thumdown: kinda looks like ash to me... were they smoking while they painted? that would suck if they did!!!! no matter what it is.. complain to them.

mikeycivic · 03-14-2009, 06:34 AM

no its not ash, that is the result of the nip and buff and the wet sanding taking off the clear and paint.

G0TB00ST · 03-14-2009, 07:09 AM

damn that blows mikey... that paint job was super expensive too!

blue2000em1 · 03-14-2009, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G0TB00ST

damn that blows mikey... that paint job was super expensive too!

It's dirt under the undercoat.

G0TB00ST · 03-14-2009, 11:26 AM

thats booty

Adankid · 03-14-2009, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TunerN00b

Sounds like poor prep work left dirt and "junk" on the car which they painted over.

How do you owe the shop money a year after the work was done?

same thing i was thinking

mikeycivic · 03-14-2009, 12:27 PM

well whatever it is/was its definitely avoidable and should not be there?

shocker911 · 03-14-2009, 01:55 PM

poor prep and a dirty booth....did you see the booth they used? some1 prolly opened the door or left it open when they were painting the car and you got stuff iin the base and clear.
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can you feel bump when you rub your finger over them or is it kinda sharp? bump means its under the clear kinda sharp is in the clear.

5GVTEC · 03-14-2009, 01:59 PM

thats def not normal. Trash in the paint and in the one pic it looks like there was a few paint drips on it

mikeycivic · 03-14-2009, 03:00 PM

its both in and under the clear

KuEy · 03-16-2009, 08:45 AM

i think they also had a bad gun, that's where the dark spots of the blue is coming from.

mikeycivic · 03-16-2009, 09:19 AM

so regardless of what exactly it is, the fact is that it shouldn't be there and the car should be resprayed?

corked1260 · 03-16-2009, 12:59 PM

i would not blame that on the gun, the light and dark spotting is the painters fault for not having even coats with equal overlap on each spray pass.

those spots and will not come out the are under the clear coat, i bet they sprayed the base coat then waited a while before the clear coat so dust and junk could settle down on the base coat before the clear was applied. i would go complain right away. i know i would not let a car i painted leave like that!

03-13-2009, 08:49 AM	#2
iwanttokillgod Banne*d Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: upland, ca, usa Posts: 888	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? pics would help

03-13-2009, 09:23 AM	#3
mikeycivic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fa Cough, PA Posts: 11,708	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? pics will come but basically there is shit under and in the clear coat, there are areas where it was wetsanded and polished and whatever was in the clear, took the clear and paint off with it. There is also a lot of what appears to be dirt (or specs) of something in the paint. __________________ Custom alarm installs pm me for details FS: B Series Parts http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2640767 FS: K Color Fog Switches http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2624551

03-13-2009, 12:50 PM	#4
TunerN00b Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Culver City, CA, United States Posts: 4,563	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? Sounds like poor prep work left dirt and "junk" on the car which they painted over. How do you owe the shop money a year after the work was done?

03-13-2009, 12:52 PM	#5
mikeycivic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fa Cough, PA Posts: 11,708	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? LOL LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG story, and if I keep it, someone owes me a new paint job.... __________________ Custom alarm installs pm me for details FS: B Series Parts http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2640767 FS: K Color Fog Switches http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2624551

03-13-2009, 01:36 PM	#6
Jonathan_ED3 Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Underthere, Underwear Posts: 8,573	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? ....so, are you going to post pics? __________________ My Vouch Thread '93 Civic DX Coupe 40mpg

03-13-2009, 01:41 PM	#7
mikeycivic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fa Cough, PA Posts: 11,708	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? when i get my lens back, I cant get close enough pics with my 55-200mm lens. __________________ Custom alarm installs pm me for details FS: B Series Parts http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2640767 FS: K Color Fog Switches http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2624551

03-13-2009, 02:13 PM	#8
KuEy Junior Member 1992 Honda Civic Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: dayton, mn, usa Posts: 325	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? man. that sounds like poor prep work, bad guns, and a bad booth. you should either get a respray for their poor work.

03-13-2009, 02:16 PM	#9
mikeycivic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fa Cough, PA Posts: 11,708	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? i got pics hold on __________________ Custom alarm installs pm me for details FS: B Series Parts http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2640767 FS: K Color Fog Switches http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2624551

03-13-2009, 02:22 PM	#10
Paul-R Banne*d Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: IN A BLACK ROOM Posts: 944	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? It sounds like you got a little over spray on the base coat and the clear coated over it, and second it sounds like they didn't mix the hardener right not mixing the hardener can cause chipping of the clear coat in some cases . With the over spray they must of sprayed some other job by your car and it got on you paint . All in all a body shop is suppose to get the customers approval and OK about the jobs they do, if there is anything wrong upon picking up your vehicle we as body shop owners are suppose to correct it to meet your satisfaction, i run a body shop so i dealt with little complaints . Last edited by Paul-R; 03-13-2009 at 02:27 PM.

03-13-2009, 08:36 PM	#12
mikeycivic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fa Cough, PA Posts: 11,708	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? __________________ Custom alarm installs pm me for details FS: B Series Parts http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2640767 FS: K Color Fog Switches http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2624551

03-13-2009, 08:41 PM	#13
hondaZvic Member 1999 Honda Civic My Garage Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: tx Posts: 6,615	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? trash in the paint/ under the clear... :thumdown: kinda looks like ash to me... were they smoking while they painted? that would suck if they did!!!! no matter what it is.. complain to them. __________________ MY COUPE \| MY HATCH

03-14-2009, 06:34 AM	#14
mikeycivic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fa Cough, PA Posts: 11,708	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? no its not ash, that is the result of the nip and buff and the wet sanding taking off the clear and paint. __________________ Custom alarm installs pm me for details FS: B Series Parts http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2640767 FS: K Color Fog Switches http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2624551

03-14-2009, 12:27 PM	#19
mikeycivic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fa Cough, PA Posts: 11,708	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? well whatever it is/was its definitely avoidable and should not be there? __________________ Custom alarm installs pm me for details FS: B Series Parts http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2640767 FS: K Color Fog Switches http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2624551

03-14-2009, 01:55 PM	#20
shocker911 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: big flats, new yorl, united states Posts: 407	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? poor prep and a dirty booth....did you see the booth they used? some1 prolly opened the door or left it open when they were painting the car and you got stuff iin the base and clear. \ can you feel bump when you rub your finger over them or is it kinda sharp? bump means its under the clear kinda sharp is in the clear.

03-14-2009, 01:59 PM	#21
5GVTEC Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chesterfield, VA, USA Posts: 365	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? thats def not normal. Trash in the paint and in the one pic it looks like there was a few paint drips on it __________________ 94 GSR

03-14-2009, 03:00 PM	#22
mikeycivic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fa Cough, PA Posts: 11,708	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? its both in and under the clear __________________ Custom alarm installs pm me for details FS: B Series Parts http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2640767 FS: K Color Fog Switches http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2624551

03-16-2009, 08:45 AM	#23
KuEy Junior Member 1992 Honda Civic Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: dayton, mn, usa Posts: 325	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? i think they also had a bad gun, that's where the dark spots of the blue is coming from.

03-16-2009, 09:19 AM	#24
mikeycivic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fa Cough, PA Posts: 11,708	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? so regardless of what exactly it is, the fact is that it shouldn't be there and the car should be resprayed? __________________ Custom alarm installs pm me for details FS: B Series Parts http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2640767 FS: K Color Fog Switches http://hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2624551

03-16-2009, 12:59 PM	#25
corked1260 Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: rochester, nh, USA Posts: 343	Re: Im assuming this isnt normal??? i would not blame that on the gun, the light and dark spotting is the painters fault for not having even coats with equal overlap on each spray pass. those spots and will not come out the are under the clear coat, i bet they sprayed the base coat then waited a while before the clear coat so dust and junk could settle down on the base coat before the clear was applied. i would go complain right away. i know i would not let a car i painted leave like that! __________________ http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif

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