md23vtec

This is the B series set. H's are possibly in the works. PPG says the "case brace" is not "needed" for the H/K dogbox gearset but can be made. What are everyones thoughts?

Clayton

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This post is not a repost, it's a question thread. Please offer opinions in response to the OP question

slvrslepr

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I like the design. Are the gearsets available, or are they in the testing phase. Also what would pricing be?

tony1

Obviously the brace is a safer bet, but considering it will change the price of the gear set at least $500, is it something people would be willing to do without if it's deemed not necessary on the H kit? What is extra insurance worth?

md23vtec

That's the point I was making. For the extra $500 give or take I'd rather just have it done for peace of mind. If something would go wrong ( not saying it would or would not ) The cost would be alot more then $500. Also not to mention the down time or waiting for a fix.

Erikos

Here is the thought, you can see how much stronger the H looks and how much more support there is compared to the B series.

B series



H series

boostedh22a

Nice looking stuff

22_42r_eg

i think we are actually gonna have to put a dog box in a powerful h series to see if the casing is going to break or not. but like tony says i doesnt hurt to have it for extra insurance. I really need on of those boxes for the H. I broke two trans in the same event. cant even get down the track anymore.

The sweed

Does this gear set eliminates the 5th gear? No one ever broke the case between the finaldrive and 2nd gearshaft?

tony1

As you know, R&D costs are absorbed into a product when it's manufactured and sold.

On top of that, comparing this set to a Liberty and saying it's overpriced is apples to oranges. The Liberty doesn't have the lower brace and looking at the gear stacks next to each other there's no question which one will be stronger. I'll try to find the pics of my liberty stack for comparison.

Keep in mind, PPG primarily does rallye cars and also does Shep's dogboxes, so it's safe to say they know what materials and heat treats work for this kind of stuff and can build and design a good gearbox.

boostedcivicsir

stay on track fellas, this is an info thread, please keep pricing questions in PM's.

nonvtecallmotor

I've owned so much stuff that "shouldnt break" or "looks unbreakable" or "is unbreakable" that still breaks. Make me a believer.....

Clayton

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Tony I'm going to ask, and please don't anyone get their panties in a bunch over this. But I want to know what you saw between the two stacks that tells you that this unit is so much better than the Liberty? I'm not knocking this set at all, and Eric seems to be a super stand up guy that truly believes in his product. But I know that one of my very good friends has his Liberty and it seems to be working pretty well for him.

Is the PPG unit only going to be necessary for you guys that make over 900whp?

Once again, this is just a question, and I don't want to start a pissing match here

tony1

Obviously looks aren't everything. But look at these and tell me which one 'looks' stronger.

tony1

I'll put up more detailed comparison pics later this week when I have both in hand.

Puscifer

Man Tony you can really see the engaugement depth on the teeth in the gearset on the top.

I asked in the other PPG thread, but, has anyone every tried the Quaife Dogbox gearset?

K20Ahondas

Our PPG has last us all season, maintenance free.

K20Ahondas

We had 4 quaife boxes. Guess where they are now?

Puscifer

Gotcha.

1992Si

Just checked rota's Liberty in the basement. The root of the teeth on the PPG look wider.

K20Ahondas

Tooth profiles are very important, I noticed over the quaife that the PPG teeth profiles are deeper

Wopsicle69

omg quick somebody blur out the trans case bracing before somebody tries to copy it

oh no omg

tepid1

No worries.... that's not the only place that they are modified....

alopez84

When i talked to Eric yesterday the engineer at PPG said the H's looked a bit stronger than the K's and they don't seem to be having a problem with the case. So i am fine with or without it. I just cant wait till they make the H Sets! Thanks Eric!

KevinMBracing

I have 3 cars in my shop with dog boxes,2 G-force and a liberty.Jesus Christ just by pictures i can tell that PPG is F-ing Bomb proof compared to the rest.PPG FTW!!!!!!!
Im scrapping the G-force,anyone want to buy it.