Short Ram Intake shootout!!!

[StokelesS_g2]

Originally Posted by integratypeRs Rockingham is where i ran my 15.7. I think you should be able to run low 15's with exhaust and clutch/flywheel. Just practice on your launches by trying diffrent rpm's off the line. keep track of your time slips and mark the rpm's you lauch at on that slip. The one with the best 60ft is what you want keep doing. I usually lauch at 2500 I know how to race. You're saying that you cut .7 sec of your time with an intake added. A stock LS Integra is rated at 16.1 sec in a 1/4. Now pulling off a 16.1 in a stock LS, then a 15.7 with an intake might seem more resonable.

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[Bl6da9]

I personaly run an Iceman Cold air, it's usually a short ram since it rains half the year here in Florida.

[integratypeRs]

Originally Posted by StokelesS_g2

I know how to race.


You're saying that you cut .7 sec of your time with an intake added.

A stock LS Integra is rated at 16.1 sec in a 1/4.
Now pulling off a 16.1 in a stock LS, then a 15.7 with an intake might seem more resonable.

Well im just trying to give some friendly advice. No need to get mad. 15's are possible with an integra with only an intake. Depends on how ragged out the car is i guess.

My time slip reads:
R/t .004
60' 2.460
330 6.783
1/8 10.310
MPH 70.08
1000 13.329
1/4 15.793
MPH 88.1

[bsampson]

Originally Posted by kulo

what about velocity stack on password intake?

any thoughts on this? What is the inlet on the PWJDM intake? its definitly possible. anyone ever done it?

[StokelesS_g2]

I'm not mad.
Yes, 15's are possible with only an intake. I've already said that.

So from a stock LS Integra, adding an intake should knock off around .4 of a sec.
(depending on car, temp.,sea level, driver, etc)

knocking off .7 of a sec is a little far fetched for any intake.

[Mattb16teg]

Originally Posted by bsampson

any thoughts on this? What is the inlet on the PWJDM intake? its definitly possible. anyone ever done it?

Honestly, this intake sucks and is just a gimmick! Why would anyone pay $200 + for this product when a better option can be had for about $80(3" pipe and Velocity stack kit).

[PandaSJ]

Originally Posted by Mattb16teg

So how will it not fit? getting lucky?

LoL, this is why you know what your buying, buy the proper angle and length pipe and tada, you have what you need..........

A couple people I've seen bought some intakes off of ebay and it didn't sit in right. they ended up just buying the AEM anyways. But then some people have gotten a good intake off of ebay so idk thats was just my .02

[em1_civicsi]

how does a V-stack add power?

[96teggynonVtec]

Originally Posted by StokelesS_g2

I'm not mad.
Yes, 15's are possible with only an intake. I've already said that.

So from a stock LS Integra, adding an intake should knock off around .4 of a sec.
(depending on car, temp.,sea level, driver, etc)

knocking off .7 of a sec is a little far fetched for any intake.

Ya its is, but who is to say he had his best run when he was running without the intake... Maybe he had a couple of decent runs without the intake and then with the intake on, he had a great run. Too many variables... But yes no way an intake would drop .7 seconds of your time if the runs were identical.

[integratypeRs]

Originally Posted by 96teggynonVtec

Ya its is, but who is to say he had his best run when he was running without the intake... Maybe he had a couple of decent runs without the intake and then with the intake on, he had a great run. Too many variables... But yes no way an intake would drop .7 seconds of your time if the runs were identical.

Without the intake i ran do low 16's (16.1; 16.0) With the intake on i can do high 15's (15.8; 15.7) I did the 15's on the same track with the temp. about 10 degrees cooler that day. Also; without it on when i cross the finish line im at about 6800 rpms in third. With it on im in fourth when i cross the finish line at about 5500.

[StokelesS_g2]

^Nice change of story, LoL.

[integratypeRs]

Change of story?

[wegotmorrison]

Intakes and Exhausts usually dont give you any gains in HP really, but I did gain .3 seconds on the 1/4 mile. haha. No name intakes are ghetto. Who cares if they "do the same thing" they make you look poor and white trash. you pay for the name and look. not the gains.

[integratypeRs]

Originally Posted by wegotmorrison

Intakes and Exhausts usually dont give you any gains in HP really, but I did gain .3 seconds on the 1/4 mile. haha. No name intakes are ghetto. Who cares if they "do the same thing" they make you look poor and white trash. you pay for the name and look. not the gains.

They arnt ghetto? Offbrand intakes dont make you look like white trash; mullets and camaro's do. Who cares what name is it. And why would you pay more for a namebrand when an offbrand does the same thing?
Perfect Example: Mugen SI's. why would you pay 30,000 for a civic when all thats diffrent from a regular si is the suspension and some exterior stuff? Because its rare?

waste of money...

[95acuraintegra]

i gotta 95 gsr with a aem v2. sounds great. cai all the way

[NeverLift]

I never had name brand intake systems...just filters. If I did spend some chetta on a new intake set-up I'd have to go with whale penis or something applicable with a velocity stack.

Current: HKS Mega Flow w/ Tornado! lol

[unusual71]

im looking for an intake and i like this thread, great links

what would be nice is if everyone who has bought an intake off ebay would post up who they bought theirs from because there are like 100 different sellers on ebay and its hard to tell just from the pictures which ones are selling high quality intakes and which ones just offer garbage.

[fullyeclipsed]

if you are already moving, a cai has no advantage over a shorty. you lose torque w/ a cold air, and i think everybody knows by now that hondas can't spare any... short ram with a heatshield to eliminate as much eng compartment heat as possible; coupled with some ducting to direct cooler air to the filter area from the front bumper ducting. they did all these tests in the magazines before most people on this forum's nuts dropped...tried and true. pics above illustrate this beautifully. cai are just a way to justify charging more for more than you need, extra pipe=extra $

[Jason.H.]

3 inch pipe with shielded k&n filter on a velocity stack.

[90_EX_Civic]

Originally Posted by fullyeclipsed

if you are already moving, a cai has no advantage over a shorty. you lose torque w/ a cold air, and i think everybody knows by now that hondas can't spare any... short ram with a heatshield to eliminate as much eng compartment heat as possible; coupled with some ducting to direct cooler air to the filter area from the front bumper ducting. they did all these tests in the magazines before most people on this forum's nuts dropped...tried and true. pics above illustrate this beautifully. cai are just a way to justify charging more for more than you need, extra pipe=extra $

sport compact mag just did a recent cold air vs ram air vs stock piping+k&n filter. they all ran about the same. the ram air was a little bit better overall. the cai did how ever have better high end hp gains, but lost in the low to mid. the stock piping with the k&n looked almost like the ram air, but it looked like the stock piping was a little restrictive.

now the only other thing that i could see with all of this cai vs ram, is that with out a tune, it's just going to be a shiny piece of metal(or bling bling carbon fiber) under your hood. noting more nothing less.

[GSRkrod]

my buddy has a b16 crx, he made more power with an ebay short ram than he did with the password jdm whale dick. he called password and complained and they said you will only make the power it says it can make with the "appropriate" mods. they said you can only make the power that they say it can make with a built head and what not. so imo the whale dick is way too expensive and doesnt do anything unless you have "appropriate" mods

and for the whole battle between what an ls can run in the 1/4 lol, mine ran 16.1-16.4 and all the way up to a 16.9 one day and a 15.9 another day, the contributing factor for me was tires, i had brand new tires when it ran a 15.9. traction, weather and track conditions are the biggest difference makers. my ls has a home made short ram, dc 4-1 header, 2.5" catless exhaust. IMO go with an ebay short ram wit k&n filter

[lmike6453]

Custom and mandrel bent into a "s"shape with a K&N long cone filter($65 at autozone)

[givemetime]

make your own ;D
or just go and buy one off ebay, in my opinion theres not much of a difference in power gain between brand name or not.
just go with a 3" pipe and a velocity stack.
probably about the only one you'll see a change.

[ll HUFF ll]

I have an AEM SRI that used to be on my 94 GSR...I'll sell it to you super cheap!!!

[bpkmrtoes]

stock is resonator removed. lol...