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civic_sc · 08-31-2008, 11:40 PM

procharger and turbo civic startup

http://videos.streetfire.net/v...5.htm

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mycarslow · 08-31-2008, 11:55 PM

in for more info

civic_sc · 09-01-2008, 12:10 AM

will keep posting news of the dyno soon and more pics from the build up...

thks mister

b16sedan · 09-01-2008, 04:47 AM

Unless you stepped up to like a D1 procharger, that turbo is going to pull way more air than the blower can support, and then the blower is just going to be a big inlet restriction.

HiProfile · 09-01-2008, 06:15 AM

...Not to mention, the procharger won't have much boost down low like a roots or lysholm. You'll also have higher IAT's because you'll be compounding the efficiency losses. Even at 85-90%, the procharger will still be adding heat to the inlet air on the turbo.

Still, its a very uncommon thing on Hondas to dual-charge them. I honestly hope it works great on that car.

clemsonhatch · 09-01-2008, 06:53 AM

That looks crazy!

R.A.T. · 09-01-2008, 07:21 PM

Subscribed!

I got to come see this! Good job!

Here's some pics for you guys:

clemsonhatch · 09-04-2008, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by civic_sc

will keep posting news of the dyno soon and more pics from the build up...

When are you going to the dyno. I'm curious to see the results and compare to my twincharger setup

I'm going to the dyno tomorrow

Boosted_Coupe · 09-04-2008, 08:57 AM

In for more detaails! Will you guy's be racing CSCS this year at all?

tony413 · 09-04-2008, 10:19 AM

oh boy why dont you add some N02 while your at it and make this a triplecharged car

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i dont see this performing all that well, but thats just me. i want to see the dyno. Also why are you running the supercharger into the turbo compressor ??? i think it would be smarter to just run your supercharger into the intercooler seperate of the turbo comp. i think your just going to make alot heat with your current configuration

civic_sc · 09-04-2008, 10:25 PM

do you have any pics of your twincharger set up...and the dyno is probably tomorow for me ....

TIGboy · 09-05-2008, 12:12 AM

im sorry to be stupid on this subject but I would like to know why there is a dumped gate on his inlet of his turbo? is that from the supercharger? I think that is an insane setup. I love it. good luck with it. very cool.

tony413 · 09-06-2008, 09:53 AM

theres a WG on the supercharger tube feeding to the compressor of the turbo.

DaveF · 09-06-2008, 11:31 AM

can that super charger have pulleys changed to speed it up?

the valve on the inlet of the turbo (outlet of the supercharger) does that work as a bypass not to choke the turbo ? or is it to regulate pressure in that pipe ? or is it dual purpose ?

tony413 · 09-06-2008, 01:09 PM

[quote=DaveF]can that super charger have pulleys changed to speed it up?
QUOTE]

its a centrifugal (sp) style SC so yes you can change the pulley or get better compressor wheels.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveF

the valve on the inlet of the turbo (outlet of the supercharger) does that work as a bypass not to choke the turbo ? or is it to regulate pressure in that pipe ? or is it dual purpose ?

im thinking the WG on the SC pipe is acting as a dual purpose

JRSC01GS-R · 09-06-2008, 01:31 PM

i would like to see how it does on the dyno, and is it just me or does that ic look kinda small

HybridcivicLS-T · 09-06-2008, 01:41 PM

wanting to see this.

tony413 · 09-06-2008, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRSC01GS-R

is it just me or does that ic look kinda small

watch the video. it looks like it has a co2 line to cool it

Sr420Det · 09-06-2008, 03:43 PM

How much boost are you running on each fi device? and what will you end up with at the intake mani?
Shit looks mean, cant wait to see it in action.

CTR_B · 09-07-2008, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony413

oh boy why dont you add some N02 while your at it and make this a triplecharged car

Watch the vid closely and look at the I/C it has a No2 spryer on it lol

tony413 · 09-07-2008, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTR_B

Watch the vid closely and look at the I/C it has a No2 spryer on it lol

wasnt sure if it was No2 or Co2

civic_sc · 09-12-2008, 12:16 AM

http://videos.streetfire.net/v...st.ca

JRSC01GS-R · 09-12-2008, 02:24 AM

hmmmm, so what did it put down?

tony413 · 09-12-2008, 07:25 AM

ummmmm so yeah not moved at all

Boostinb20! · 09-12-2008, 08:00 AM

My dumb as friend did a set up like this and i made 150 more HP with just a single turbo the reason we found was the boost coming off the turbo was way to much for the secondary turbo and caused lag, another guy tried this with a turbo and a supercharger and the same results the boost would just back up on the Supercharger and it was restricitng more air than anything

Good luck hope it did not coast you much to build it.

08-31-2008, 11:55 PM	#2
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09-01-2008, 04:47 AM	#4
b16sedan Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,049	Re: (civic_sc) Unless you stepped up to like a D1 procharger, that turbo is going to pull way more air than the blower can support, and then the blower is just going to be a big inlet restriction. __________________ 1990 Sedan B16 1992 DX Hatch Z6

09-01-2008, 06:15 AM	#5
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TIGboy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: dearborn, Michigan, USA Posts: 1,028	Re: (civic_sc) im sorry to be stupid on this subject but I would like to know why there is a dumped gate on his inlet of his turbo? is that from the supercharger? I think that is an insane setup. I love it. good luck with it. very cool. __________________ 04 Srt4 325whp

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Boostinb20! Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: salem, or, 97302 Posts: 146	Re: (tony413) My dumb as friend did a set up like this and i made 150 more HP with just a single turbo the reason we found was the boost coming off the turbo was way to much for the secondary turbo and caused lag, another guy tried this with a turbo and a supercharger and the same results the boost would just back up on the Supercharger and it was restricitng more air than anything Good luck hope it did not coast you much to build it. __________________ SSSSPSH is the Sound right before I leave ya!

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