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Enoc · 05-28-2008, 09:16 AM

what the CR. on each of this setups...is this on pump gas or race fuel?

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b18avtec(A!!M0TOR) · 05-28-2008, 10:56 AM

wow very nice,

JDM JEFFREY · 05-28-2008, 11:44 AM

Derek told me that 99mil motor was 12.5comp and on cali 91 pump gas not sure if they used gas gas in any of the motors.
i think the 95 and 97 were the same comp

Turbo EH2 · 05-28-2008, 02:42 PM

On the 95mm motor is there any modifications necessary to the type s pistons with the blox cams? or was a thicker head gasket used?

EGHATCH4YA209 · 05-30-2008, 09:13 AM

Yes the pistons do have to be modified to avoid valve to piston issues, there is a slight trick to it though.

Nice graph comparison Derek, i guess we will have to at least try out the ITB's.

Can i get a price on a 99 stroker kit?

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A/M street cars Mike Nhew 11.7@115 Josh Gray 11.4@119
Turbo Street cars Pe Thor 10.7@135 Thang 10.44@133

turbohybridlude · 05-31-2008, 08:48 PM

ttt iwant more info on the 99mm setup

SIXTY · 05-31-2008, 10:10 PM

So what did this beast do today?

Neticz · 06-01-2008, 03:38 PM

real nice

ParrisEngineDynamics · 06-01-2008, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbohybridlude

ttt iwant more info on the 99mm setup

More info? Aww man I can't give away all my secrets

Josh, Mike, and myself have spent quite a bit of time and money to make this build happen. I know for the first 97mm stroke budget build, we documented every step and made a post to put it out there for you guys to have fun with and make some decent power withought breaking the bank. I have not come up with a final price nor have I decided if we are going to sell this 99mm kit yet. If I have enough inquiries I just may consider it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIXTY

So what did this beast do today?

The car did an 11.60. Traction has been an issue for this car We are still on the 23" slicks but will probably switch to the 24's"

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbohybridlude

u guys make me fell like a chump wit my lil 95mm i wish i was a baller too like u guys

Baller haha man we will fake it till we make

But seriously these motors really are not that expensive at all shhhhh don't tell anyone.....Imagine what the cost would be to make that power with a B Series motor or just calculate how much a K 24 swap w/ rods and pistons would cost. We beat the crap out of these engine on and off the dyno. I think the 99 stroke already has 60+ dyno pulls and 10+ passes down the track. I guess it is time to actually build a real engine.

~Derek

Modified by ParrisEngineDynamics at 5:17 AM 6/2/2008

turbohybridlude · 06-01-2008, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ParrisEngineDynamics

If I have enough inquiries I just may consider it.

well u can put me down for one

2fastGSR · 06-01-2008, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbohybridlude

well u can put me down for one

I think you should finish one build before you start another . . . Lol

FLATBUSH PROJECTS · 06-01-2008, 11:16 PM

so simple and so fast

Gold DA9 · 06-02-2008, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLATBUSH PROJECTS

so simple and so fast

Wonder if with the ITB's you will be able to reach 200wtq...

EGHATCH4YA209 · 06-03-2008, 09:47 AM

I want a 99 stroker kit!!!!!

who else wants a stroker kit?

AllMtrRex · 06-03-2008, 09:58 AM

If I sent you guys the h22 pistons could you do the machine work required for the 97mm crank build. Machine shops around my area are all about push rods and would never touch a 4 cylinder.

FLATBUSH PROJECTS · 06-03-2008, 03:57 PM

can i get a 99 crank please

Expletive! · 06-03-2008, 04:11 PM

Saw the hatch over the weekend at CMI! that car really boogies down the track!

for traction!

lude98SH · 06-03-2008, 05:42 PM

I would be in for a 99mm kit.

I think BC makes a kit now also. However I dont know if they are popular or well constructed.

Danger · 06-03-2008, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EGHATCH4YA209

who else wants a stroker kit?

josh, next time im at the shop ill teach you how to "quote" on HT.

h2bna motor · 06-03-2008, 07:13 PM

if you have a 219.5 deck h 99mm strok k20 rods are 139mm or you can get scot racing rods h22 139.3mm the h22 piston is 31mm. if you do the math you well see it well give you a 0 deck h rod/ stroke ratio will be 1.40. sorry but I think you ran this set up.

h2bna motor · 06-03-2008, 07:28 PM

If I sent you guys the h22 pistons could you do the machine work required for the 97mm crank build. Machine shops around my area are all about push rods and would never touch a 4 cylinder.

the k20/k24 are 1mm lower and they fit.

EGHATCH4YA209 · 06-03-2008, 08:26 PM

That actualy doesnt work, the wrist pins are different when it comes to F23 rods and K20 rods. The diameter is different and the styles are different (F23 resistance fit/K20 full floating wrist pin)

Josh G

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musclehead954 · 06-03-2008, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ParrisEngineDynamics

first 97mm stroke budget build, we documented every step and made a post to put it out there for you guys to have fun with and make some decent power withought breaking the bank.

Where is this thread capitan?

h2bna motor · 06-03-2008, 08:46 PM

That actualy doesnt work, the wrist pins are different when it comes to F23 rods and K20 rods. The diameter is different and the styles are different (F23 resistance fit/K20 full floating wrist pin)
Josh G

if you go to crower sit http://www.crower.com/cat/impo...shtml you see they make rods that have the same wrist pins size .866

Danger · 06-03-2008, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musclehead954

Where is this thread capitan?

maybe this thread, im not to sure.

http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2061413

05-28-2008, 10:56 AM	#27
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05-28-2008, 11:44 AM	#28
JDM JEFFREY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: KING OF THE COAST, Oregon Posts: 1,812	Derek told me that 99mil motor was 12.5comp and on cali 91 pump gas not sure if they used gas gas in any of the motors. i think the 95 and 97 were the same comp __________________ (89.5x97h2b)286whp214tq 11:54@115 fastest allmotor street car in OR POWERED BY PARRIS RACE ENGINES project 300+ coming soon

05-28-2008, 02:42 PM	#29
Turbo EH2 * B A N N E D * Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: REVVIN UP THE SPEED REVSPEED, CA, usa Posts: 478	Re: (JDM JEFFREY) On the 95mm motor is there any modifications necessary to the type s pistons with the blox cams? or was a thicker head gasket used?

05-30-2008, 09:13 AM	#30
EGHATCH4YA209 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: stockton, ca, United States Posts: 178	Re: (Turbo EH2) Yes the pistons do have to be modified to avoid valve to piston issues, there is a slight trick to it though. Nice graph comparison Derek, i guess we will have to at least try out the ITB's. Can i get a price on a 99 stroker kit? Parris Engine Dynamics (209) 467-4909 http://ParrisEngineDynamics.com http://QuarterSportsDrag.com Holland Racing all motor unibody civic 10.16@132. A/M street cars Mike Nhew 11.7@115 Josh Gray 11.4@119 Turbo Street cars Pe Thor 10.7@135 Thang 10.44@133 __________________ AM H2B QSD 11.45@119 Coming soon to a track near you .... www.quartersportsdrag.com Joshuaglobal@yahoo.com

05-31-2008, 08:48 PM	#31
turbohybridlude Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: plainfield, nj, usa Posts: 113	Re: (EGHATCH4YA209) ttt iwant more info on the 99mm setup __________________ allmotor h23vtec h2b

05-31-2008, 10:10 PM	#32
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06-01-2008, 03:38 PM	#33
Neticz Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 19	Re: (SIXTY) real nice

06-01-2008, 11:16 PM	#37
FLATBUSH PROJECTS Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: soon to LBC Posts: 3,229	Re: (2fastGSR) so simple and so fast __________________ -NOMIS IND.-CCCYLINDERHEADS.COM-GREENLOVE BICYCLES-H22SQUAD.COM- AUG SPECIAL-TIMING BELT,WATER PUMP -$100 -WE DO BUILDS,SWAPS,HEADWORK TUNE UPS-

06-03-2008, 09:47 AM	#39
EGHATCH4YA209 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: stockton, ca, United States Posts: 178	Re: (turbohybridlude) I want a 99 stroker kit!!!!! who else wants a stroker kit? __________________ AM H2B QSD 11.45@119 Coming soon to a track near you .... www.quartersportsdrag.com Joshuaglobal@yahoo.com

06-03-2008, 09:58 AM	#40
AllMtrRex Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: RedNeck Riceland NC Posts: 185	Re: (EGHATCH4YA209) If I sent you guys the h22 pistons could you do the machine work required for the 97mm crank build. Machine shops around my area are all about push rods and would never touch a 4 cylinder.

06-03-2008, 03:57 PM	#41
FLATBUSH PROJECTS Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: soon to LBC Posts: 3,229	Re: (AllMtrRex) can i get a 99 crank please __________________ -NOMIS IND.-CCCYLINDERHEADS.COM-GREENLOVE BICYCLES-H22SQUAD.COM- AUG SPECIAL-TIMING BELT,WATER PUMP -$100 -WE DO BUILDS,SWAPS,HEADWORK TUNE UPS-

06-03-2008, 04:11 PM	#42
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06-03-2008, 05:42 PM	#43
lude98SH Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Drexel Hill, Pa, 19026 Posts: 2,763	Re: (Expletive!) I would be in for a 99mm kit. I think BC makes a kit now also. However I dont know if they are popular or well constructed. __________________ WTB: t2w4 transmission Progress rear sway bar Dry nitrous kit

06-03-2008, 07:13 PM	#45
h2bna motor Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: jacksonville, fl Posts: 84	Re: (Danger) if you have a 219.5 deck h 99mm strok k20 rods are 139mm or you can get scot racing rods h22 139.3mm the h22 piston is 31mm. if you do the math you well see it well give you a 0 deck h rod/ stroke ratio will be 1.40. sorry but I think you ran this set up. __________________ http://www.stage6motorsports.com/ SIK Creations-we change colors as we go down the track! k20/k24 civic 11.7@ 114mph 1.6 60ft

06-03-2008, 07:28 PM	#46
h2bna motor Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: jacksonville, fl Posts: 84	Re: (AllMtrRex) If I sent you guys the h22 pistons could you do the machine work required for the 97mm crank build. Machine shops around my area are all about push rods and would never touch a 4 cylinder. the k20/k24 are 1mm lower and they fit. __________________ http://www.stage6motorsports.com/ SIK Creations-we change colors as we go down the track! k20/k24 civic 11.7@ 114mph 1.6 60ft

06-03-2008, 08:26 PM	#47
EGHATCH4YA209 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: stockton, ca, United States Posts: 178	Re: (h2bna motor) That actualy doesnt work, the wrist pins are different when it comes to F23 rods and K20 rods. The diameter is different and the styles are different (F23 resistance fit/K20 full floating wrist pin) Josh G Parris Engine Dynamics (209) 467-4909 http://ParrisEngineDynamics.com http://QuarterSportsDrag.com Holland Racing all motor unibody civic 10.16@132. A/M street cars Mike Nhew 11.7@115 Josh Grey 11.4@119 Turbo Street cars Pe Thor 10.7@135 Thang 10.44@133 __________________ AM H2B QSD 11.45@119 Coming soon to a track near you .... www.quartersportsdrag.com Joshuaglobal@yahoo.com

06-03-2008, 08:46 PM	#49
h2bna motor Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: jacksonville, fl Posts: 84	Re: (EGHATCH4YA209) That actualy doesnt work, the wrist pins are different when it comes to F23 rods and K20 rods. The diameter is different and the styles are different (F23 resistance fit/K20 full floating wrist pin) Josh G if you go to crower sit http://www.crower.com/cat/impo...shtml you see they make rods that have the same wrist pins size .866 __________________ http://www.stage6motorsports.com/ SIK Creations-we change colors as we go down the track! k20/k24 civic 11.7@ 114mph 1.6 60ft

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