TurboD1695

Need some help here Honda-tech... Im going to be some autocross this year.. I just purchased a set of Ground Control and Koni with the hats. Im going to running some Falken Azenis and I dont wanna wear out my tires. I have some specs im going to be using on the car for the allingment. I dont think the stock UCA and the rear UCA are gong to give me the proper spec. Is there anything good out there that you guys suggest?

Stinkycheezmonky

There should be no reason to have adjustable camber with Azenis. Meaning, you can get as much camber as you'll need by adjusting height. Save your money and put it towards events or something.

<--- Ran for 5 years without adjustable camber. After that, got it only because I needed it to keep my Hoosiers alive.

TurboD1695

I would like to have the just to have the extra play... What are you using now?

Stinkycheezmonky

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What?

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Skunk2 arms in the front, nothing in the rear now. Before buying anything, have an idea about how much camber you want (it shouldn't be much with Azenis, they're still a street tire), and buy accordingly. A lot of the Ingalls front kits have limited range, as an example.

Lo-Buck EF

what are you driving? that will specify what camber adjustment parts you'll need. but the monkey is right. just run the car the way it is. i ran azenis daily and at the autocross and at the track for years with zero camber adjustment on my old ef and i was plenty compettitive and the tires wore pritty even.

TurboD1695

OK

Tyson

if youre worried about your tires, make sure you get an alignment.

proper toe spec is critical for tire wear. camber is not.

Andrie Hartanto

If you are looking for performance, I recommend these camber and toe link kit:




We've used it in the race car for 2 years and did the test and development for Wicked Tuning. It is finally ready for the public.

I like the nice touch they put by differing the nut color for right hand and left hand thread. No more confusion. Black mean right hand thread and silver means left hand thread.

Lo-Buck EF

pimpy

rockdude14

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Well the top hats suggest your lowered it.
And if you did that probably means you have some negative camber.
Get an alignment get your toe at 0 and see where you camber is before you buy anything.

I bought camber kits to get more negative camber.

Especially in an autocross situation you will wear the outsides down 100x faster at 0 camber. In stock class I had to get my hoosiers flipped on all the rims just so I could wear down the other side.

Im running about 2deg in the front and 1deg in the back

Remember toe kills tires not camber.
Im running skunk2 stuff front and back

TurboD1695

Yeah I purchased all 4 top hats... Im going to need some of the negative camber so i can wear the tires evenly when taking hard turns and wont have understeer...

TunerN00b

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If you really want to add more camber to the front than lowering alone provided:

http://store.summitracing.com/...72160

Also adjusts caster +- 1.5*.

TurboD1695

SPC I hear they make good stuff...

Tweakmeister

I added an Ingalls kit and had nothing but problems. It seems like many people have also had kits such as the Skunk2 slip as well.

To be honest, if you're so low that there is significant camber (and/or tires are rubbing), then the Konis are probably riding on the bump stops.

I would go without them for a while - I think you'll be impressed.

TurboD1695

Ingalls are priceee too. I wouldnt think you would have problems with them...

R you serious

the skunk 2 and photo above kill you on the PT points
i think ingalls is the way to go if you in a PT series with nasa.
&lt;---- stuck with skunk2 on my car

climb_on

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anyone else using these?
i see they are going for pretty cheap

they say they adjust -1.5 to 2.5
so that compare to stock or how does that work cause i know i would like to run more than -1.5

TunerN00b

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anyone else using these?
i see they are going for pretty cheap

they say they adjust -1.5 to 2.5
so that compare to stock or how does that work cause i know i would like to run more than -1.5
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Um, unless you have a specific need to adjust the rear toe curve (or need it asymmetric for oval racing), why would you even want adjustable "toe links"?

Our cars have adjustable toe at both ends from the factory, after all...

Tyson

thoughts? experiences?

MFactory



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climb_on

idk good question...

but i meant the camber arms not the toe.

has anyone used the camber arms. if they adjust only up to -1.5 is that the most i'll be able to run in the rear?

figured i would steal this thread instead of making another camber questione thread.

climb_on

didnt even know about the mfactory, they look great but price

the wicked tuning are under 100 bucks

any toughts

and adjustability, does -1.5 mean compare to stock. as in if lowered on stock its already at -1 i can run up to -2.5?

just a bit confused

Andrie Hartanto

The Wicked Tuning ones are not under $100. The one under $100 are the rubber bushing ones. Not the racing line with bearings.

Wicked Tuning Racing Line has been developed in conjunction with Prima Racing. We ran and develop the camber kit in our own race car with great success. Few championship title and national title.

With our input and R&D Wicked Tuning are able to offer a great value and performance. We are not the cheapest, but we can be sure we offer a good quality product.

vtecjj

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anyone else using these?

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Wicked Tuning Racing Line has been developed in conjunction with Prima Racing. We ran and develop the camber kit in our own race car with great success. Few championship title and national title.

With our input and R&D Wicked Tuning are able to offer a great value and performance. We are not the cheapest, but we can be sure we offer a good quality product.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good quality stuff that's proven.

slammed_93_hatch

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anyone else using these?
i see they are going for pretty cheap

they say they adjust -1.5 to 2.5
so that compare to stock or how does that work cause i know i would like to run more than -1.5
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i just put a set in my race car. Haven't ran it yet though.

The camber adjusters look like you have a huge range of adjustment. More then the previous set i had on the car.

ejprimo

i get -2.5 in of front camber by just lowering the car with stock upper control arms.