KingMotorsports H23 Vtec ALL motor 282 WHP 196 WTQ!!!!!!

[FLATBUSH PROJECTS]

i hope u got some ideas now

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[BearsEK-KMSU]

Originally Posted by FLATBUSH PROJECTS

i hope u got some ideas now

???

[rochesterricer]

Originally Posted by DonF

it must be cold in " why would I live here" WI.

Its usually worse here in Rochester. But we are tough up here. Not like you FL pansies

[BearsEK-KMSU]

Originally Posted by rochesterricer

Its usually worse here in Rochester. But we are tough up here. Not like you FL pansies

X2

[bluedlude]

hey, it was like 40 degrees this morning

[rochesterricer]

Thats about what it is up here. Weird. We've had a damn near tropical heat wave the last couple of days. Its supposed to be back down to -14 on wednesday though

[NirVTEC]

Awesome #'s guys!
I bet the people that have blown $3-4k on a stroker crank are cringing!
OEM Honda cranks FTW!
I guess I'll be the one to add that this Dyno reads fairly average too. My friends i/h/e H22 made high 170's there and I have made low 190's with cams.


I also have to say with some Intake Manifold/TB testing....theres some more in there......Maybe some ITBs?
This build pretty much just embarassed what others have done......
KING


Modified by ::NirVTEC:: at 11:29 AM 1/28/2008

[98vtec]

it makes great power but the only "untypical" power adder were the Pro3's. I mean we have all seen what pro2's can do with some compression. You should expect that kind of graph with the pro3's, especially with race gas where you can really tweak the motor.

great build tho. I'm sure it will run great at the track and im interested in those results when you get them.

[BearsEK-KMSU]

Originally Posted by ::NirVTEC::

Awesome #'s guys!
I bet the people that have blown $3-4k on a stroker crank are cringing!
OEM Honda cranks FTW!
I guess I'll be the one to add that this Dyno reads fairly average too. My friends i/h/e H22 made high 170's there and I have made low 190's with camsI also have to say with some Intake Manifold/TB testing....theres some more in there......Maybe some ITBs?
This build pretty much just embarassed what others have done......
KING

Thank you it is nice to see someone will back up that our dyno doesn't read high! It is all about compression when you have decent size cams.





Modified by BearsEK-KMSU at 11:47 AM 2/22/2008

[ProMotive]

Very impressive #'s good work

[alterdcreations]

Originally Posted by BearsEK-Kingmotorsports

Thank you it is nice to see someone will back up that our dyno doesn't read high! It is all about compression when you have decent size cams.

How do you think the setup would have done with pump gas?
mind cam timing, etc...

[BearsEK-KMSU]

Originally Posted by alterdcreations

How do you think the setup would have done with pump gas?
mind cam timing, etc...

Honestly the motor is only 12.8:1. I think it would have ran fine with 93 pump. The customer said he was going to run race gas 110 sunoco because he is a sunoco dealer, so that is what we tuned it with. The timing was around 28* WOT and it didn't want anymore. I wouldn't have changed the cam timing because of pump they get degreed in, to what works and thats it. The fuel wouldn't have changed the cam position. In fact more aggressive cam timing if possible, would have made it easier to run pump with the added overlap by retarding the exhaust cam.


Modified by BearsEK-Kingmotorsports at 10:16 AM 1/29/2008

[alterdcreations]

thats good to know.
i ran 12.5 on my h23v . next time heavy cams are a must
maybe 13 points

[alterdcreations]

oh and i have a great tuner

[NirVTEC]

Originally Posted by alterdcreations

oh and i have a great tuner

Thats most peoples problem.......
KING is as good as it gets when it comes to builds.....their tuning appears to be catching up very quick(As they are newer to the Dyno world)
This is just more proof that KING isn't just a name.....its a way of life!
The best part of this IMO: This car will actually be raced!!! And not some BS 1320'ing either! Nothing(about REAL engine quality) is proven in a straight line that lasts 8-12sec......

[Combustion Contraption]

Originally Posted by ::NirVTEC::

Nothing(about REAL engine quality) is proven in a straight line that lasts 8-12sec......

Have to disagree with ya there.

[flyrod]

Nice dyno, thanks for sharing! Could I suggest posting this in the H22 dyno thread here and/or in the Prelude dyno thread? I'd also be interested in any further details on the setup; it definitely put down good numbers.

[2fastGSR]

Originally Posted by Combustion Contraption

Have to disagree with ya there.

x2

A motor has to be built very well to survive a full season or races, test and tunes, dyno sessions , etc.

Not knocking other venues but you cant say drag racing doesnt test a motor

[AllMoToRB18c]

Jake just copy and paste..hahah see how much power the H can make on a simple set up? ...nice numbers

[NirVTEC]

Originally Posted by Combustion Contraption

Have to disagree with ya there.

OK....changed from NOTHING to NOT MUCH. You can't even compare Drag Racing to RR'ing when it comes to a build. Those PRO teams spend alot of time working on the car between runs.
It becomes a comparison between "It made it through a run" to "It lasted for a 4 hour Enduro"
Dragging is fun....but a waste for an engine like this!
for the RR'ing Wizards in Cheese-Land USA!!!

[BearsEK-KMSU]

Originally Posted by ::NirVTEC::

OK....changed from NOTHING to NOT MUCH. You can't even compare Drag Racing to RR'ing when it comes to a build. Those PRO teams spend alot of time working on the car between runs.
It becomes a comparison between "It made it through a run" to "It lasted for a 4 hour Enduro"
Dragging is fun....but a waste for an engine like this!
for the RR'ing Wizards in Cheese-Land USA!!!

We build drag setups also, but they last like a RR car. They are not low 9 second cars tho.

[NirVTEC]

Originally Posted by BearsEK-Kingmotorsports

We build drag setups also, but they last like a RR car. They are not low 9 second cars tho.

I know....but your bread and butter is RR'ing aka REAL RACING.
Tell Scott-------Clint from Chicagoland Prelude Club says GREAT JOB!!!

[2fastGSR]

How can you say it would be a "waste" if it were used for drag racing? If the owner spent his hard earned money building the motor for Road racing then I would say he did a great job.

But if he built it for drag then your saying its a waste? If he built it for drag then he spent his own money on doing so. My h build will soon be complete and is very similar to this build, but mine is for drag. So in your eyes the thousands of dollars I have worked hard for to build the motor- was basically wasted?

We all have our likes and dislikes but to say things like that is an absolute close minded perception.

Sorry to Hi-jack the thread-

Again - SICK Build - for whatever its intentions are. .

[b18avtec(A!!M0TOR)]

thats just some sick ass pwr, great job

[NirVTEC]

Originally Posted by 2fastGSR

So in your eyes the thousands of dollars I have worked hard for to build the motor- was basically wasted?

My opinion=Yes
to each his own.....add up your $/sec and compare to my $/hour.......I am getting more out of my money. Thats my point.
We don't want this to turn into another RR vs Drag debate......

What series was this engine built for? I have to assume some kind of Unlimited SCCA club racing. I can't think of anything that allows block sleeving other than that.