DIY- 01-02 civic manual cluster to 03-05 cluster swap

[travismoreno]

i know it sounds like a good idea to save money and get a cluster off ebay rather than a dealer but cant you get in trouble if you dont have the stock cluster in your car. Will it affect anything or will nobody notice??

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[stinkypinky1011]

Originally Posted by fongyz22

I see from the link to civicforums, there was an issue at the end of the DIY there about the gas and temp needles. Did you experience the same issue or are they automatically adjusted when u rearranged the wire connections?

i had no problems what so ever and this was my first time, everything works just fine.

[stinkypinky1011]

Originally Posted by rightbrainer

Sorry to be dense, and I haven't torn into the actual plugs yet, but I have looked over the diagrams again and what I see is that the instructions say the as-is diagrams are on the bottom and the to-be diagrams are on the top. There are a total of 24 wires shown on the bottom diagrams and 25 shown on the top, so that raises a question about where does the 25th wire come from (unless the to-be's are on the bottom). Secondly, there is a blue red wire in the to-be Green 14 position and a blue yellow wire in the to-be Green 12 position that don't show on either the as-is diagrams for the blue or green plugs, creating another mystery about where they come from.

I'll go look at my plugs and see if I'm mis-interpreting something here.

ok i think ur getting confused. the blue/red wire comes from the blue connector cause there like 5 or some wire that you have to move from the blue connector to the green one. and one wire from the green to the blue one. i stated what wires got to be moved in the diy. maybe this cleared it up for you.

[stinkypinky1011]

Originally Posted by rightbrainer

Just to get this off my chest, the diagrams also show a white red wire in position Blue1 and position Green15 in the VP diagrams but only once in the EX diagrams at position Green17, so which wire goes to Green 17? Do you twist them together?

the bottom diagrams are what ur connectors look like when you start . ok. the top is what they need to look like, you will notice that some wires in the blue connector moved to the green one and one wire from the green to the blue.that how it has to be.to clear it up. your goal is to make it look like the top.

[stinkypinky1011]

Originally Posted by travismoreno

i know it sounds like a good idea to save money and get a cluster off ebay rather than a dealer but cant you get in trouble if you dont have the stock cluster in your car. Will it affect anything or will nobody notice??

well no and yes. you will not get in trouble for having it in your car, but if you have warrenty on and the cluster has more mile then what your warrenty is for it may affect it. most peopl will not notice only people that really know about the car. the be problem free fine a cluster with almost the same miles.

[GSRpower]

Quick question for anybody that owns a 03-05 Civic...

I'm looking at buying a used 03 EX. When I turn the ignition to ON I didn't see a 'SRS' or 'Airbag' light come on in the cluster. Where is this light located on the 03-05 cluster? I'm afraid the airbags may have been deployed or something else and the seller disconnected the light. TIA


Modified by GSRpower at 7:58 AM 2/11/2008

[kharned08]

just wondering, could i do an auto 01-02 ex --> auto 03-05 ex w/o having to rewire? would it just be plug-n-play?

[stinkypinky1011]

if you want to puy an 03-05 cluster in an 01-02 you must repin the connectors

[rightbrainer]

Thanks for setting this up. I re-pinned my connectors with no problems at all. Since I put an LX cluster into a DX, I now have the ABS warning light lit. Does anyone know how to make it go away other than tape over the light?

[kharned08]

Originally Posted by stinkypinky1011

if you want to puy an 03-05 cluster in an 01-02 you must repin the connectors

ok thanks

Originally Posted by rightbrainer

Thanks for setting this up. I re-pinned my connectors with no problems at all. Since I put an LX cluster into a DX, I now have the ABS warning light lit. Does anyone know how to make it go away other than tape over the light?

remove the light bulb?

[It Wasn't Me]

[Jstans84]

Anyone got a suggestion as to where I can get the cluster with the red rings for a manual trans? Stupid ebay only has then for autos.

[oddmut]

look for a coupe 03-05 manual???? iunno. i think that's how it is. 03-05 coupe = red and sedan = blue.

[It Wasn't Me]

It's not bad enough they're all AT clusters - none of them are EX, either. (not that it really matters)

[JDMInspired]

for the a/t clusters does anyone know what pin the reverse light wire is on? (04 ex cpe)

also for whoever asked you cant remove the "bulb" on the 03-05 clusters. they are surface mount led's which are directly soldered on the board. what you can do is put a small piece of electrical tape behind whatever indicator you don't want lit.

[firetyphoon1]

I just installed a 2005 cluster from a 01 and I dont see the GREEN/BLACK wire that fits in the blue piece, 2nd row 2nd slot, Whats the purpose of it b/c now my cd player wont even start up! and I have an extra white/red wire..??

[stinkypinky1011]

Originally Posted by firetyphoon1

I just installed a 2005 cluster from a 01 and I dont see the GREEN/BLACK wire that fits in the blue piece, 2nd row 2nd slot, Whats the purpose of it b/c now my cd player wont even start up! and I have an extra white/red wire..??

the cluster wires should have nothing to do with your cd player.

[firetyphoon1]

=] ok after long hours of searching it was a blown fuse some how it tripped the fuse and i just replaced it now everything's fine!

[d5civic]

nice work stinkypinky, will be doing this very soon

[islandgurl305]

[stinkypinky1011]

i just did my boys car i notice something disconnect the battery before starting. you'll blow the fuse.

[EvDog03]

Has anyone tried to go from a cluster with NO TACH to a cluster with one, or is that something i would have to ask the dealer to do. I have a 01 dx manual and not having a tach is nothing less than retarded, and i dont want to by one i have to glue to my dash.

[Gumby99si]

i just did the swap today.. every thing works fine except my speedometer.. i wired everything exactly like the diagram but i had changed the cluster because the previous one was having problems with the speedometer as well...the needle had fell off and it was always cutting in and out but recently stopped working all together..so my question is which wire controls the speedometer i just wanna make sure because not throwing a speed sensor code and dont wanna spend the money for it if i can avoid it..also found 2 white and red wires...one originally on the blue plug and one on the green..when i put it in i tried both wires in the the new white\red spot but doesnt seem to change anything..

[joswat]

Hi, i have an civic 2001 lx and i bought an 2003 civic cluster, i connect it right away before getting the wires done and now my check engine light dont turn off.. do you think that if i rewire the plug and put the 2003 cluster it will go off?

[stinkypinky1011]

idk try it and find out i have done 2 swaps already and had no problems.