EKSedAndy

Maybe this is a stupid question, but . . . there's a list of CEL codes and blinks in the Civic forum, are these codes the same for Accords as well, or is there a seperate CEL list for the Accord?

TouringAccord

that list should work for all OBDI (pre96) Honda's. The location of the service connector may be different but...

now if you have a 96+ Honda then it's OBDII and you need a scan tool to read the codes.

oem_certified_accord

if you have 5th generation accord (1994-1997), the service connector he is speaking of is located beneath the glovebox. it's the pin with 2 wires.

EKSedAndy

To my knowledge you don't need a scan tool for OBDII. The codes are different if you don't use a scan tool, but if you loop a wire in each end of the connector then the engine light gives you the blinks. I did it with no problem on my 97 Civic, just wondering if I can use the same codes list for my buddy's 98 Accord.

TouringAccord

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oem_certified_accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you have 5th generation accord (1994-1997), the service connector he is speaking of is located beneath the glovebox. it's the pin with 2 wires.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmmm.... now that you mention it I do remember reading something like this somewhere else but I never looked into it any further.

As for if the code list for OBDI cars will work for this method on a OBDII car, I dont know.

TouringAccord

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oem_certified_accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you have 5th generation accord (1994-1997), the service connector he is speaking of is located beneath the glovebox. it's the pin with 2 wires.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well, that would only be for the 94-95's right?

cause I believe the ODBII service connector on the 96-97 Accord is behind the ash tray or something and it has more than 2 wires.

oem_certified_accord

-laughs- you're right, i guess i think so highly of the 5th gen's i consider them all to be diagnosed like mine

EKSedAndy

Does anyone know where the service connector is on a 98 Accord?

GhostAccord

In my 96 the blue (service) connector is under the dash.
The OBD2 diagnostics port is behind the ashtray. You can still get the basic 1 & 2 digit error codes (Flashing CEL codes) from the OBD2 ECU using the service connector method. I would think your 98 is similar. And the codes are the same.

Under the glove box, it is in a plastic connecting cover/bracket


pull it down from under the dash


and remove it from the cover/bracket.


This is the connection that you have to jump with a wire/paper clip. After you short the two connections turn your ignition to the on position (engine not running) and count the flashes.

If there are no codes stored, the CEL will not flash.

The pattern of flashes indicates a one- or two-digit numeric code. The first digit of the code is represented by long flashes. The second digit of the code is represented by short flashes. A zero is represented by a brief pause. For example, four long flashes followed by five short flashes is code 45. One long flash followed by a pause is code 10 and nine quick flashes would be a code 9.

If there is more than one DTC stored, the CEL will display them in sequence, then it will continue to repeat all the codes after they have been displayed one time. Record and double-check all codes displayed.


Modified by GhostAccord at 12:27 AM 11/10/2007

EKSedAndy

I've got a Civic, so I frequent the EG/EK forum, and this is the CEL list that we've got. I would assume the codes would be the same across the board, but can anyone verify that this codes list would be the same on this 98 Accord?

-----CEL # List-----
1 O2A - Oxygen sensor #1
2 O2B - Oxygen sensor #2
3 MAP - manifold absolute pressure sensor
4 CKP - crank position sensor
5 MAP - manifold absolute pressure sensor
6 ECT - water temperature sensor
7 TPS - throttle position sensor
8 TDC - top dead centre sensor
9 CYP - cylinder sensor
10 IAT - intake air temperature sensor
12 EGR - exhaust gas recirculation lift valve
13 BARO - atmospheric pressure sensor
14 IAC (EACV) - idle air control valve
15 Ignition output signal
16 Fuel injectors
17 VSS - speed sensor
19 Automatic transmission lockup control valve
20 Electrical load detector
21 VTEC spool solenoid valve
22 VTEC pressure valve
23 Knock sensor
30 Automatic transmission A signal
31 Automatic transmission B signal
36 traction control found on JDM ecu's
41 Primary oxygen sensor heater
43 Fuel supply system
45 Fuel system too rich or lean
48 LAF - lean air fuel sensor
54 CKF - crank fluctuation sensor
58 TDC sensor #2
61 Primary oxygen sensor
63 Secondary oxygen sensor circuit
65 Secondary oxygen sensor heater wire (black wires)
67 Cat Converter
71 random misfire cylinder 1
72 random misfire cylinder 2
73 random misfire cylinder 3
74 random misfire cylinder 4
80 EGR Valve/Line
86 ECT sensor - Cooling System
91 Fuel Tank pressure sensor
92 EVAP Solenoid/Valve/Vacuum Lines

-----

TouringAccord

ah, good to know Ghost

EKSedAndy

Anyone recognize these codes as Accord codes as well?

GhostAccord

Here are the 2 digit codes I have from my OBD2 manual

OBDII Self Diagnosis System Codes
0 = Faulty ECM
1 = Oxygen Sensor
2 = Oxygen sensor
3 = MAP Sensor
4 = CKP Sensor
6 = ECT Sensor
7 = TP Sensor
8 = TDC Position Sensor
9 = CYP Sensor
10 = IAT Sensor
12 = EGR Lift Sensor
13 = BARO Sensor
14 = IACV
15 = Ign. Output Signal
16 = Fuel Inj.
17 = VS Sensor
20 = ELD
21 = VTEC Solenoid valve
22 = VTEC Pressure Switch
30 = A/T FI Signal A
31 = A/T FI Signal B
41 = O2 Sensor Heater
43 = Fuel Supply System
61, 63, 65 = O2 Sensor
65 = Catalytic Converter
70 = A/T Transaxle
71 - 76 = Cyl. Missfire
80 = EGR System
86 = ECT Sensor
92 = EVAP System

These are the basic 1 & 2 digit OBDII (Service Connector) codes to point you in the right direction. If you can get to an OBDII scan tool the OBDII 4 digit codes are much more acurate.

Blackitalian

I have a 99 civic ex and i did the jumper wire method and i got 9 flashes in a row , so is that a code 9? lol. I know this is a stupid question but this is my first honda

TheMuffinMan

iTrader: (1)

Well 1) you should post in the civic section

2) You have to look for the long/short flashes

if they were 9 all the same length of time - its a CEL code 9

b18crx

man i took my 6th gen apart. radio out, glove box out. half dash apart. there isnt a service plug on the 6th gen accord(4cyl)
my friend has a 00 itr and an 01 itr and both have the plug. mine just doesnt. no clue where they hid it

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GhostAccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In my 96 the blue (service) connector is under the dash.
The OBD2 diagnostics port is behind the ashtray. You can still get the basic 1 & 2 digit error codes (Flashing CEL codes) from the OBD2 ECU using the service connector method. I would think your 98 is similar. And the codes are the same.

Under the glove box, it is in a plastic connecting cover/bracket


pull it down from under the dash


and remove it from the cover/bracket.


This is the connection that you have to jump with a wire/paper clip. After you short the two connections turn your ignition to the on position (engine not running) and count the flashes.

If there are no codes stored, the CEL will not flash.

The pattern of flashes indicates a one- or two-digit numeric code. The first digit of the code is represented by long flashes. The second digit of the code is represented by short flashes. A zero is represented by a brief pause. For example, four long flashes followed by five short flashes is code 45. One long flash followed by a pause is code 10 and nine quick flashes would be a code 9.

If there is more than one DTC stored, the CEL will display them in sequence, then it will continue to repeat all the codes after they have been displayed one time. Record and double-check all codes displayed.


Modified by GhostAccord at 12:27 AM 11/10/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>

accord94jdm

dude go to http://www.troublecodes.net and they have a list of both obd1 and obd2 codes on the site

integg93

Sorry to bother you GhostAccord but does the 99 accord have the same service connector like the 98 & the codes should work for that model too right?

GhostAccord

If the 98 has a way to do a self diagnosis, CEL flash, then I would say that the 2 digit codes would remain the same. If I remember correctly the 98+ Accords don't have the 2 pin connector but you can jump 2 pins on the OBD connector. I don't remember right off hand what two pins they are. If you do a search I'msure you should be able to find it.

All-Motor H22A

Anyone know which two pins they are? I used to know, but I forgot and cannot find it here.

slamstrom

I believe it's pins 8 & 13.