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Old 05-05-2007, 07:14 PM   #26
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5k! why so much? jus because its for an s2k, don't honda greddy kits cost like 3500? i mean what the hell is the diff? the manifold and bent piping is the only vehicle specific thing i can think of?
S2000 is a more powerful car, so it requires a bigger turbo, intercooler, etc. I imagine that would bump up the cost.
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Old 05-06-2007, 11:13 AM   #27
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the kit is up on the greddy site now...$$5,599
comes with type 28 i/c,SUS mani., plug-in Ultimate, 550cc inj, fuel pump, oil reloc.

Was not expecting that close to 6k for the kit.
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Old 05-06-2007, 12:17 PM   #28
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pretty low is a understatement
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There are already dealers selling it for under 5k....
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If the price can go down on a GB for 4,500 then I'm sold..... Personally I feel this kit is going to be awsome. But as much as I like it I don't think I'd pay more than 4,500 for it.
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Old 05-14-2007, 12:47 PM   #31
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http://www.evasivemotorsports....BO_S2

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Old 05-15-2007, 03:49 AM   #32
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the kit is up on the greddy site now...$$5,599
comes with type 28 i/c,SUS mani., plug-in Ultimate, 550cc inj, fuel pump, oil reloc.

Was not expecting that close to 6k for the kit.
holy crap that is a rip-off
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Old 05-15-2007, 03:51 AM   #33
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S2000 is a more powerful car, so it requires a bigger turbo, intercooler, etc. I imagine that would bump up the cost.
why would it need a larger turbo?

its still a 4cyl, and displacement is roughly the same
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does it have a internal or external wasgate

take it to a 1/4 track (if u have one near u) I'm very curious to see what it would run..

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does it have a internal or external wasgate

take it to a 1/4 track (if u have one near u) I'm very curious to see what it would run..
im thinking its got internally gated and the times should be a little slower compared to the Comptech Supercharger times...
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why would it need a larger turbo?

its still a 4cyl, and displacement is roughly the same
I once pumped up an air mattress with my own two lungs, and that thing must have displaced hundreds of liters (although I did almost pass out in the process). The difference is that the air mattress does not take the air I blow into it, burn it, and throw it out the other end 9000 times a minute. I'd probably need 10000x the lung capacity to keep up with that.

The point is, and I'm no turbo expert so correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think displacement matters as much as airflow, which will be significantly more when the fuker is spinning at 9000rpm (as the 240 horsepower output clearly illustrates).

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Old 05-15-2007, 10:53 AM   #38
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I once pumped up an air mattress with my own two lungs, and that thing must have displaced hundreds of liters (although I did almost pass out in the process). The difference is that the air mattress does not take the air I blow into it, burn it, and throw it out the other end 9000 times a minute. I'd probably need 10000x the lung capacity to keep up with that.

The point is, and I'm no turbo expert so correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think displacement matters as much as airflow, which will be significantly more when the fuker is spinning at 9000rpm (as the 240 horsepower output clearly illustrates).
oh I was just trying to illustrate that the engines are roughly of relativa size, and yes the Ap1's go to 9, and the Ap2's to 8k....but why is that such big news? don't you remeber that the Integra Type R goes to 8400? or even the GS-R revs to 8k.


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Old 05-15-2007, 11:22 AM   #39
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oh I was just trying to illustrate that the engines are roughly of relativa size, and yes the Ap1's go to 9, and the Ap2's to 8k....but why is that such big news? don't you remeber that the Integra Type R goes to 8400? or even the GS-R revs to 8k.
Again, I'm no turbo expert, but I'd venture to guess that a proper Type R turbo needs to be, or at least should be, bigger than a GS-R turbo...and much bigger than an LS turbo....and as such I imagine it would cost more, too. And all these engines have the same displacement. Can someone confirm if this is true?

I do know that a Jackson Racing supercharger is bigger for the Type R than for the LS.
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Again, I'm no turbo expert, but I'd venture to guess that a proper Type R turbo needs to be, or at least should be, bigger than a GS-R turbo...and much bigger than an LS turbo....and as such I imagine it would cost more, too. And all these engines have the same displacement. Can someone confirm if this is true?

I do know that a Jackson Racing supercharger is bigger for the Type R than for the LS.
It doesnt need to be bigger... a smaller turbo will spool up quicker but will yeild less max power if both turbos are set to the same PSI...
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:32 PM   #41
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i think his point is a type R motor and s2000 more breathe more air than a motor of less performance, hence a bigger turbo would be more efficient
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the turbo seems to be near the size of the 16g that comes equip on the evo.
similar power as well on a DD. If they would of used a DJ they would see near 350whp. For those that need to see high peak #s. also to the OP, why didnt you use a test pipe instead of a cat? You know very well that people will look foward to the dyno chart and the peak #s the kit made. Especially since you have the proto type.
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i bigger utrbo isnt needed a 18G suits the F20/22 well IMHO
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this thread is getting out of hand with etuners!
it is very apparent to me that greddy built this turbo kit to be very streetable and work with a high compression motor. Not, to hammer out the biggest diff busting, axle breaking, peak power turbo kit possible.
For the ,"bigger turbo whiners" strap on a t88 blow up as much shit as u can and call it a daY, this kit IS NOT for u.
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this thread is getting out of hand with etuners!
it is very apparent to me that greddy built this turbo kit to be very streetable and work with a high compression motor. Not, to hammer out the biggest diff busting, axle breaking, peak power turbo kit possible.
For the ,"bigger turbo whiners" strap on a t88 blow up as much shit as u can and call it a daY, this kit IS NOT for u.
Well said! i agree with every word.

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why would it need a larger turbo?

its still a 4cyl, and displacement is roughly the same
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The difference is that the air mattress does not take the air I blow into it, burn it, and throw it out the other end 9000 times a minute.
actually the AP1 would do that 4500 a minute. takes 2 revolutions of the crankshaft to complete the 4-stroke cycle.
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actually the AP1 would do that 4500 a minute. takes 2 revolutions of the crankshaft to complete the 4-stroke cycle.
I know, but 9000 fit better into my air mattress story. It might be an inaccurate number, but as you have illustrated it immediately lets the reader know what I was talking about.
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No test pipe cuz i wanted to see how much it would put out just bolted-on. Stock boost, the soon to be street legal form of the kit. I plan on upgrading down the road, and at least i have a starting point for the kit. thanks.
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Number of cylinders and displacement are not what determines the required turbo size. Total airflow is what it's about. Assuming reasonable efficiency, airflow=horsepower, so if you want 300+ whp you'll need a bigger turbo than if you want 250 whp.
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