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spun Vtec · 03-04-2007, 12:31 PM

Ok after almost forgetting about the pile of parts sitting in my computer room under plastic I figured I would start a build post to get me motivated again.
This build has taken way too long because:

1) I have a z6 with a1 pistons in my car now that runs very good IMO and I wanted to take it as far as I could without any headwork, cam, and valve train.
2) I just bought a garage I have been working on and funds have been low.
3) I Have 2 other cars

Now down to business:

Head: D16Z6 milled .020” Ported & flow benched (It was 2 years ago I lost the numbers)
Crower springs and titanium retainers # 84166
Crower stage 3 cam # 63443z
3 angle performance valve job throat was punched .020”
0.5mm oversized valves, forged stainless sae ev8 (uns 563008) heat treated, black nitrated, swirl polished.
12:1 CPR with D16y8 2 layer HG

Block: D16A6 bored and honed milled .020"
Arias pistons # 350235, bore 2.955, comp height 29.3/-0.05 dome, weight 238g
Eagle H beam rods.
ARP head studs
ACL race bearings
New OEM d16z6 oil pump, timing belt, gaskets

Crank: D16Z6 soon to be balanced

Tranny: D16A6 totally rebuilt with OBX LSD
ZC 3rd, 4th.si 5th
ACT extreme pressure plate and street disk (I didnt want harsh enguagement for autox)
XACT 8.4lb prolite steel Fly wheel

Management: OBD1 conversion chipped P28 running chrome with ITB tools

DIY ITB’s CBR 954RR’s
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1796381

I hope to have the motor in this year,

Here are some pics for your enjoyment:

Pistons, rods

Block:

Exhaust side port work.

Crower goodies:

Head from intake side and port work:

Chamber:

ITB's and header from old setup:

Questions comments welcome.

Modified by spun Vtec at 10:19 PM 10/30/2007

Modified by spun Vtec at 10:21 PM 10/30/2007

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GGM07FA · 03-04-2007, 03:00 PM

hell of a build bro, what numbers are you expecting out of this? and if u dont mind me asking how much has this little project run you $$$?

turnsignalandy · 03-04-2007, 03:18 PM

I think it could put down 160whp

powerofdreams8 · 03-04-2007, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turnsignalandy

I think it could put down 160whp

I doubt it will do that and even if it does... whoa lightly modded b16.

Mr.RHTuner · 03-04-2007, 03:35 PM

pretty nice setup man

spun Vtec · 03-04-2007, 03:42 PM

Im shooting for 165-170whp and I try not to think about the price.
Less than a gsr swap

and alot less weight up front

Aquafina · 03-04-2007, 03:54 PM

Sigh. Haters always chime in on D builds.

I like the fact that you punched out the throat to accomodate the bigger valves. Not something the average person does.

spun Vtec · 03-04-2007, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquafina

Sigh. Haters always chime in on D builds.

I like the fact that you punched out the throat to accomodate the bigger valves. Not something the average person does.

nsxmatt · 03-04-2007, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquafina

Sigh. Haters always chime in on D builds.

Trust me, there are haters on B16/b18 builds too.

Props on the build and doing what you want

03-04-2007, 06:11 PM

woot!! awesome.. hmmm... you might make more power than me. In fact.. i might have to run forged pistons/rods myself...

on a side note, thanks a lot for posting the pics of the crower retainers. I just got my crower valvetrain with my crower stage 3 and the bag with the retainers said b16 with 87096, but fit the springs fine.. so i guess crower retainers are the same for b and d's

the sohc empire is strong in you.

cisurfer1 · 03-04-2007, 06:39 PM

Sick..What kind of numbers do you plan to put down?.....and also what kind of header is that?

spun Vtec · 03-05-2007, 08:05 AM

ill be "happy"(very happy) with 165-170whp with some dyno tuneing
JG header

high_revs · 03-05-2007, 08:23 AM

always nice to see something different, you dont see too many all motor d series builds

for effort...

f*ck haters bro

juda7 · 03-05-2007, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h2b_eg8

always nice to see something different, you dont see too many all motor d series builds

for effort...

f*ck haters bro

*crawls out from under rock*

I like it

*crawls back under rock*

Natural Aspirations · 03-05-2007, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquafina

I like the fact that you punched out the throat to accomodate the bigger valves. Not something the average person does.

dr_latino999 · 03-05-2007, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerofdreams8

I doubt it will do that and even if it does... whoa lightly modded b16.

Beyond the fact that it has torque unlike some other motors, there is a sense of pride making 44% more power than stock without changing the displacement.

dirtySOHC's · 03-05-2007, 05:34 PM

nice....i miss single cams.....your old setup looks badass

DA9ReMiX · 03-05-2007, 08:12 PM

another all motor SOHC!

powerofdreams8 · 03-05-2007, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr_latino999

Beyond the fact that it has torque unlike some other motors, there is a sense of pride making 44% more power than stock without changing the displacement.

I won't touch the torque comment, but I can appreciate where you're coming from. Doing more with less is always great (I love telling people my 96 cubic inch motor makes over 400whp).

I know that 150whp civics can sure be fun and the fact that he attained the power from hard work and research rather then just buying a b-series makes it all the more fun for the OP. I just question the point of this exercise; the only really good reason I can see is to stay within class rules for some sort of autocross/road racing.

clean build, high attention to detail, nice work

Salsa · 03-05-2007, 08:44 PM

the only good reason i can see for this build, is that he wanted to build a d-series, AND THAT IS MORE THAN ENOUGH..... PROPS TO U FOR NOT BEING A CONFORMIST AND BUILDING WHAT U WANT

powerofdreams8 · 03-05-2007, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salsa

the only good reason i can see for this build, is that he wanted to build a d-series, AND THAT IS MORE THAN ENOUGH..... PROPS TO U FOR NOT BEING A CONFORMIST AND BUILDING WHAT U WANT

So... unique > horsepower?

LoSt is BlaCk · 03-05-2007, 09:35 PM

cool build

Aquafina · 03-05-2007, 10:10 PM

Horsepower is horsepower. More power to him for getting it how he wants.

jdmsiR20 · 03-05-2007, 10:40 PM

save the sohc! i'll keep my eye on this, love to see how it comes out

BIGTUNA · 03-06-2007, 09:53 AM

nice build, 07 is gonna have some quick NA sohc's come out.

03-04-2007, 03:00 PM	#2
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03-04-2007, 03:18 PM	#3
turnsignalandy Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Stuck Behind a Buick WA Posts: 3,340	Re: (SiWaNNaB) I think it could put down 160whp __________________ USDM as F*ck

03-04-2007, 03:35 PM	#5
Mr.RHTuner Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 519 by the 401, Canada Posts: 8,989	Re: (powerofdreams8) pretty nice setup man

03-04-2007, 03:42 PM	#6
spun Vtec Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Altoona, pa, usa y0 Posts: 4,390	Re: (SiWaNNaB) Im shooting for 165-170whp and I try not to think about the price. Less than a gsr swap and alot less weight up front __________________ SOHC done right. My Naturaly Aspirated d16z6 build. 97 artic silver BMW ///M3 89 Civic SI hatch p29'd sohc ITB crower3'd - scca racer "A built B-series is like a boob job, alot of BITCHES have them and im just not impressed "

03-04-2007, 03:54 PM	#7
Aquafina Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Johnson City TN Posts: 9,601	Sigh. Haters always chime in on D builds. I like the fact that you punched out the throat to accomodate the bigger valves. Not something the average person does. __________________ Whoopee Doo Racing: MFactory, Rocket Motorsports, Action Clutch////ITR Expo Sponsor 2006-2009////MFactory North American Installer////Need a trans built? Doo it once, Doo it right.

03-04-2007, 06:11 PM	#10
GarageAlchemist Guest Posts: n/a	Re: (nsxmatt) woot!! awesome.. hmmm... you might make more power than me. In fact.. i might have to run forged pistons/rods myself... on a side note, thanks a lot for posting the pics of the crower retainers. I just got my crower valvetrain with my crower stage 3 and the bag with the retainers said b16 with 87096, but fit the springs fine.. so i guess crower retainers are the same for b and d's the sohc empire is strong in you.

03-04-2007, 06:39 PM	#11
cisurfer1 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: South Jerz Posts: 198	Sick..What kind of numbers do you plan to put down?.....and also what kind of header is that?

03-05-2007, 08:05 AM	#12
spun Vtec Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Altoona, pa, usa y0 Posts: 4,390	Re: (cisurfer1) ill be "happy"(very happy) with 165-170whp with some dyno tuneing JG header __________________ SOHC done right. My Naturaly Aspirated d16z6 build. 97 artic silver BMW ///M3 89 Civic SI hatch p29'd sohc ITB crower3'd - scca racer "A built B-series is like a boob job, alot of BITCHES have them and im just not impressed "

03-05-2007, 08:23 AM	#13
high_revs Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 9,346	always nice to see something different, you dont see too many all motor d series builds for effort... f*ck haters bro __________________ 2005 silverstone S2000

03-05-2007, 05:34 PM	#17
dirtySOHC's Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: OCONUS Posts: 4,074	Re: (dr_latino999) nice....i miss single cams.....your old setup looks badass

03-05-2007, 08:12 PM	#18
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03-05-2007, 08:44 PM	#20
Salsa Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: lake charles, la Posts: 139	Re: (powerofdreams8) the only good reason i can see for this build, is that he wanted to build a d-series, AND THAT IS MORE THAN ENOUGH..... PROPS TO U FOR NOT BEING A CONFORMIST AND BUILDING WHAT U WANT

03-05-2007, 09:35 PM	#22
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03-05-2007, 10:10 PM	#23
Aquafina Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Johnson City TN Posts: 9,601	Re: (powerofdreams8) Horsepower is horsepower. More power to him for getting it how he wants. __________________ Whoopee Doo Racing: MFactory, Rocket Motorsports, Action Clutch////ITR Expo Sponsor 2006-2009////MFactory North American Installer////Need a trans built? Doo it once, Doo it right.

03-05-2007, 10:40 PM	#24
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03-06-2007, 09:53 AM	#25
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