DC5 Type R & DC5 Type S

[s2k_3.11]

Does any one here have a site or even a list of what's the EXACT differences between the 02-04 Type R and 02-04 Type S? I.E.: Exhaust Line sizes (what's the difference in size) Thanks in advance everyone! Edit: I'll kick it off in this order, correct me if I'm wrong: (Add more detail if needed) I know I'm missing a lot, but I want it to be detailed properly, let's try to keep this in that order, hopefully be a sticky soon. 02-04 Type R differences compared to the 02-04 Type S Exterior: - 4 Piece Lip Kit - Blackout Headlamps With HID Kit - Integra Emblem In The Rear - Large Diameter Exhaust Pipe - No Sunroof - Painted Body Color Upper Front Grill - Red H Emblem In The Front - Red H Emblem In The Rear - Remote Control Foldable Mirrors (Optional) - Sidemarkers - Spoiler - Type R Decals On Each Side - Type R Emblem In The Rear Interior: - 3 Spoke Momo Leather Steering Wheel (360mm) - A/C (Optional) - Aluminum Footrest - Aluminum Pedal Pad - Aluminum Shift Knob - Center Console - Coin Holder - Honda Navigation System (Optional) - MD with AM/FM tuner / CD player (Optional) - Recaro Front Seats - Red Stiched Shift Booth - Type R Doorsill Suspension/Wheels/Brakes: - 17x7 Alloy Wheels With 60mm Offset - 8.65 KG Each - 215/45Z R17 - Aluminum Front Control Arms - Brake Cooling Air Duct - Brembo Calipers - Front Hubs - Front Rotors - Front Strut Tower Bar - Front Sway - 23.8x2.8mm (Hollow) - Outer Axles - Rear Hubs - Rear Rotors - Rear Sway - 22 mm (Solid) - Springs rate (Front/Rear): 2.8 ~ 4.6 / 3.0 ~ 8.0kgf/mm Under The Hood: - 4-2-1 Header - 4.764 Final Drive - 11.5 To 1 Compression - Black Dip Stick - Exhaust Camshaft - Flywheel 10.25 lbs - Gray Spark Plug Cover - Helical LSD - Intake Camshaft - Intake Manifold - Intake Manifold Cover - i-VTEC DOHC - Red Valve Cover Modified by s2k_3.11 at 11:39 PM 2/1/2007

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[bryce-o]

intake manifold is different, cams are different (though the 05-06 type s has itr cams), exhaust manifold is 4-2-1 on the type r as opposed to 4-1 on the type s, compression ratio is 11.5 to 1 on the r and 11 to 1 on the type s

[96sedanR]

Don't forget the black dipstick! we get an ugly orange one. haha

[FullEP3]

What I learned from my recent suspension swap ... all are differences between to the Type S and Type R that you haven't mentioned in your list thus far.

aluminum front control arms, front/rear sways, front/rear hubs, outer axles, front/rear rotors, 17x7 rim w/ 60mm offset, spring rates

I believe the Type R has a wider stance than that of the Type S (wider track) ... I noticed a significant increase in front and rear track with my new setup.



Modified by FullEP3 at 3:14 PM 2/1/2007

[s2k_3.11]

UPDATED

[a2_DC5]

type r has no sunroof, radio, or a/c as opposed to the type s having them

[hondafrk505]

you forgot that the type r is MAD JDM TYT3

[s2k_3.11]

Originally Posted by a2_DC5

type r has no sunroof, radio, or a/c as opposed to the type s having them

Radio is Optional
A/C is Optional

[vivid 02]

HOw about the actual shell/ frame? Do they come with thicker quarter panels like the DC2 ITR's do ???

[TunerTalk]

From the research that I've done, it doesnt seem like there are any differences in the actual shell and frame.

[s2k_3.11]

Originally Posted by vivid 02

HOw about the actual shell/ frame? Do they come with thicker quarter panels like the DC2 ITR's do ???

Do you have pictures of your Type R?

I love that car, I couldn't find a clean one though, so I got the Type S instead.

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Originally Posted by TunerTalk

From the research that I've done, it doesnt seem like there are any differences in the actual shell and frame.

interesting...did you take any pictures of the type-s and type-r frames showing that they are the same?

[vivid 02]

yeah search some of my posts. you will find some pics here and there.

I had an RSX-S too as a daily/fun car in addition to the ITR, but after my RSX was stolen, I did not want to buy another.

[mikestypes]

Originally Posted by bryce-o

intake manifold is different, cams are different (though the 05-06 type s has itr cams), exhaust manifold is 4-2-1 on the type r as opposed to 4-1 on the type s,

The TypeS also has a 4-2-1 setup (the large secondary pipe has a divider running down the middle of it and keeps the exhaust in two streams, but does not allow as much cooling to happen for faster cat light-off and reduced emissions.).

The TypeR chassis does have some differences. It does not have a sunroof, the rear seat bracing is aluminum instead of steel and there is a rear bar that ties the rear shock towers together.

I once heard that the hood for a TypeR was aluminum, but have not ever confirmed it.

[infumis]

canadian type s has heated leather .. yup its ballin

[infumis]

and also ... my type r cluster only goes to 180 kms ... as opose to 260 i think it is on my usdm oem one ... kinda shitty considering i do 200 in fourth gear ....

[Mt3c]

rear caliper is cast in aluminum painted red

this link should help you,
http://www.honda.co.jp/factboo....html
use a language translator like bablefish or google
http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr

hths

[Deetz]

The last true DC5-R i saw had front and rear tow hooks. You can see it pistured beside me. Also had part of the grill nose cone from factory, where ours, are not.

[Deetz]

Here's a decent pic of a Euro spec DC5-R, it hsa no hooks in it though.

[Ocelaris]

To be fair, no amount of conversion is going to get you a Type-R. That's the whole point, you can put every once of a type-R into your DC5, and it won't be the same. There are parts you can't even imagine, and it's something until you ride in one, you won't believe me.

I'm not saying you shouldn't try for better parts, but you shouldn't have a false impression that throwing a lip kit, engine, and new suspension/axle/brembos is going to equal a type-R.

On the other hand there are aftermarket parts which out do a type-R. If you're going for type-R bliss without the knowledge, you'll always and forever be disappointed, if you just want to max your car's potential, you'll get over the hype and start building.

You may have all the best intentions, and it's not a bad idea for the thread, but I just hate kids who call their USDM vehicles type-R without the respect it deserves. It's a beautiful car and I don't like to see the name tarnished.

my $.02

[jspecb18c]

Listed below is a link to a great site that has all the information you would ever need about the DC5 Type-R....

http://www.itr-dc5.com/spec/index.php

-Ryan

[s2k_3.11]

Originally Posted by jspecb18c

Listed below is a link to a great site that has all the information you would ever need about the DC5 Type-R....

http://www.itr-dc5.com/spec/index.php

-Ryan

Thanks again for the info on the exhaust.

[Evokill73]

Nice and Clean!

[jspecb18c]

Originally Posted by s2k_3.11

Thanks again for the info on the exhaust.

Not a problem at all and I thought your screen name looked familiar.

-Ryan

[s2k_3.11]

Originally Posted by jspecb18c

Not a problem at all and I thought your screen name looked familiar.

-Ryan

I gotta get a hold of that exhaust now!

The shop that I wanted to get it from, doesn't have it anymore...

Where did you get yours?