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808Rsx · 01-23-2007, 12:20 PM

I got the DC race Header for my 03 type-s and I was curious about the recommendation of picking up the energy suspension motor mounts. Does it help? in the long run and short term?
or can I go without it for a few months?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

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Schwebel · 01-23-2007, 02:00 PM

Put them in as soon as possible, otherwise your header will crack. I put mine on at the same time so I can't tell you how long you are good for. But I have seen several cracked headers. The install isn't as bad as it may seem, I dropped the subframe a coule inches and bam, in they went. You will most likley need to get an alignment when you are done, so if you need to install spings/struts/coilovers, do it all at the same time.

.Kevin. · 01-23-2007, 06:57 PM

Well you are half way there when you install the header. The ESMM are what 30$ and take maybe an hour more to install. It does help because it reduces engine movement which causes the header to crack. Your stock one has the springs around the screws and the new header. That flex pipe will take a beating if you do not put them in.

I say put them in and call it a day. If it is a DC sports header they will not cover it under warrenty if you do not have the ESMM.

ep3civic2nr · 01-23-2007, 11:16 PM

esmm will save your flex pipe.

Todd00 · 01-24-2007, 05:20 AM

ESMM (Energy Suspension motor mounts) will also make your car vibrate at every stoplight. Gets kinda annoying, especially when you have the A/C on.

When under power it is fine, but the harmonics under 1000RPMs is really anoying.

But to answer the question--as everyone else has said--definitely install them if you put on a race header.

swollen_cu · 01-24-2007, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd00

ESMM (Energy Suspension motor mounts) will also make your car vibrate at every stoplight. Gets kinda annoying, especially when you have the A/C on.

When under power it is fine, but the harmonics under 1000RPMs is really anoying.

But to answer the question--as everyone else has said--definitely install them if you put on a race header.

I already feel that with my ingalls torque damper, and its set on the softest setting. that is why im reluctant in getting the ESMM.

Todd00 · 01-24-2007, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swollen_cu

I already feel that with my ingalls torque damper, and its set on the softest setting. that is why im reluctant in getting the ESMM.

Do you need both? I'd almost get rid of the torque damper and use the ESMM's. Unless you drag race a lot or something, but the ESMMs will still help a lot with wheelhop.

02 i-vtec · 01-28-2007, 04:43 PM

I have both, the torque damper and the esmm's and my car vibrates like hell but its worth it for the stiffness...

808Rsx · 01-30-2007, 04:44 PM

Right on guys, I ended up getting the ESMM. Ill post about how it ends up working out.
Hope this helps my autocross times

freakinrsx · 01-30-2007, 04:51 PM

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Mugen Dom · 01-30-2007, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd00

ESMM (Energy Suspension motor mounts) will also make your car vibrate at every stoplight. Gets kinda annoying, especially when you have the A/C on.

When under power it is fine, but the harmonics under 1000RPMs is really anoying.

But to answer the question--as everyone else has said--definitely install them if you put on a race header.

Ive had the DCRH and ESMM rear only insert...and no breakage and very little vibration

Tyte-S · 11-05-2007, 06:16 AM

So when getting a RH, definately get ESMM's. How hard of an install are they?

flipsyde · 11-05-2007, 04:42 PM

flipsyde · 11-05-2007, 04:45 PM

what the reason why you need an alignment for dropping the subframe a little and just inseting the esmm's??

NTCustoms · 11-05-2007, 10:01 PM

they are not hard to install, just hard to get the motor mounts out since there is hardly any room to do anything where the mounts are located.

Tyte-S · 11-06-2007, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTCustoms

they are not hard to install, just hard to get the motor mounts out since there is hardly any room to do anything where the mounts are located.

You answered my next question too.

1986 · 11-06-2007, 10:12 AM

Definately get esmm. DCRH's are notorious for the flex pipe breaking as is

WhiteOnRice · 11-06-2007, 10:23 AM

*I have an EP3* with a DCRH that didn't crack w/o ESMM for 6 months so you probably didn't damage your's. Now I have Innovative mounts and a torque dampener

(May sell torque dampener - PM if interested)

01-23-2007, 02:00 PM	#2
Schwebel Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kettering, Ohio, USA Posts: 6	Re: Question, Anyone with an 02-04 RSX-s DC Race Header need Esmm? (808Rsx) Put them in as soon as possible, otherwise your header will crack. I put mine on at the same time so I can't tell you how long you are good for. But I have seen several cracked headers. The install isn't as bad as it may seem, I dropped the subframe a coule inches and bam, in they went. You will most likley need to get an alignment when you are done, so if you need to install spings/struts/coilovers, do it all at the same time.

01-23-2007, 06:57 PM	#3
.Kevin. Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Land on Lincoln Posts: 2,189	Re: Question, Anyone with an 02-04 RSX-s DC Race Header need Esmm? (Schwebel) Well you are half way there when you install the header. The ESMM are what 30$ and take maybe an hour more to install. It does help because it reduces engine movement which causes the header to crack. Your stock one has the springs around the screws and the new header. That flex pipe will take a beating if you do not put them in. I say put them in and call it a day. If it is a DC sports header they will not cover it under warrenty if you do not have the ESMM. __________________ -05 Yamaha R6 -97 Saturn SL1

01-23-2007, 11:16 PM	#4
ep3civic2nr Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: south, nj, usa Posts: 1,612	esmm will save your flex pipe. __________________ *JDM Fronted EP3 Keeping it Clean and not expletiveing it up. Check out my Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/photos/fmarkovich

01-24-2007, 05:20 AM	#5
Todd00 Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: OH Posts: 9,250	Re: (ep3civic2nr) ESMM (Energy Suspension motor mounts) will also make your car vibrate at every stoplight. Gets kinda annoying, especially when you have the A/C on. When under power it is fine, but the harmonics under 1000RPMs is really anoying. But to answer the question--as everyone else has said--definitely install them if you put on a race header.

01-30-2007, 04:44 PM	#9
808Rsx Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pearl City, HI, USA Posts: 2	Re: Question, Anyone with an 02-04 RSX-s DC Race Header need Esmm? Right on guys, I ended up getting the ESMM. Ill post about how it ends up working out. Hope this helps my autocross times

01-28-2007, 04:43 PM	#8
02 i-vtec Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: BumbleFcuk, ny, usa Posts: 262	I have both, the torque damper and the esmm's and my car vibrates like hell but its worth it for the stiffness...

01-30-2007, 04:51 PM	#10
freakinrsx Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: fort polk, la, usa Posts: 5	Re: Question, Anyone with an 02-04 RSX-s DC Race Header need Esmm? (808Rsx) .

11-05-2007, 06:16 AM	#12
Tyte-S Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: GrannyShiftingNotDoubleClutchingLikeIShould,Nj Posts: 2,710	Re: (Mugen Dom) So when getting a RH, definately get ESMM's. How hard of an install are they? __________________ Shit For Sale... http://williamsport.craigslist.org/pts/1581267134.html

11-05-2007, 04:42 PM	#13
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11-05-2007, 04:45 PM	#14
flipsyde Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: fresno, ca, u.s. Posts: 164	Re: Question, Anyone with an 02-04 RSX-s DC Race Header need Esmm? (Schwebel) what the reason why you need an alignment for dropping the subframe a little and just inseting the esmm's??

11-05-2007, 10:01 PM	#15
NTCustoms Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Socal, CA Posts: 1,974	they are not hard to install, just hard to get the motor mounts out since there is hardly any room to do anything where the mounts are located. __________________ Redline Time Attack SFWD RSX Type S #37 5th MFWD Autoclub Speedway 2008 Special Projects Motorsports, PCI, Amsoil, Blueprint, Spy Optic, LF.com, Innovative

11-06-2007, 10:12 AM	#17
1986 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Edmonton, Ab, Canada Posts: 52	Re: Question, Anyone with an 02-04 RSX-s DC Race Header need Esmm? (808Rsx) Definately get esmm. DCRH's are notorious for the flex pipe breaking as is

11-06-2007, 10:23 AM	#18
WhiteOnRice Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,614	I have an EP3 with a DCRH that didn't crack w/o ESMM for 6 months so you probably didn't damage your's. Now I have Innovative mounts and a torque dampener (May sell torque dampener - PM if interested) __________________ Selling my k20a2 ep3: http://www.hondamarketplace.com/show....php?t=2670508 FS: Parting out a 2002 White Pearl RSX Type S (Titanium interior). LMK if you need anything.

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