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stewmaster-k · 01-14-2007, 07:18 PM

would the following setup wrok good and make decent power (at least 165 whp)?
b18b1
p30 psitons on stock rods
gsr head with type r intake manifold, toda valvetrain, milled .020 over (just to clean it up a bit)
toda spec b cams
aem cam gears
rc 310 cc injectors
bdl fuel rail
b&m fpr
dc 4-1 header
omni test pipe
full 2.5" catback
fidanza flywheel
golden eagle ls/vtec conversion kit

lmk
thanks guys!
-Kevin

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Jay_Sensing · 01-14-2007, 07:24 PM

If you look around in here man, you will see that's a pretty common and solid setup. I would just make sure if I was using a DC header it was the JDM R version so it will have a 2.5 collector, you will be pretty satisfied I think. Just check out the dyno thread and you will see what others have made with very similar to let you guess until you get it built and on the dyno.

stewmaster-k · 01-14-2007, 07:29 PM

alright thanks for the input! its greatly appreciated! and any other input will be welcome!

-Kevin

ryanplayjoint · 01-14-2007, 08:49 PM

The p30 stock rod thing won't work with ls rods. the ls rod's small ends are too thick for vtec pistons.

stewmaster-k · 01-14-2007, 08:50 PM

my friend has p30's in his ls and he said that you need to shave them a bit. or what rods do you think i should use? and where could i get them?
-Kevin

Fezzie · 01-15-2007, 12:00 AM

ls rods just modify them

Richard... · 01-15-2007, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stewmaster-k

would the following setup wrok good and make decent power (at least 165 whp)?
b18b1
p30 psitons on stock rods
gsr head with type r intake manifold, toda valvetrain, milled .020 over (just to clean it up a bit)
toda spec b cams
aem cam gears
rc 310 cc injectors
bdl fuel rail
b&m fpr
dc 4-1 header
omni test pipe
full 2.5" catback
fidanza flywheel
golden eagle ls/vtec conversion kit

lmk
thanks guys!
-Kevin

Injectors a little big for that setup????

fidanza flywheel i would try to get a chrome molly one

blox intake manif (cheaper) or what about that aebs one?

cams blox, skunk2 toda too expensive lol

at the end of the day though there is no right and wrong your car your build your money just be happy with that you build.........!

stewmaster-k · 01-15-2007, 04:38 AM

well the intake mani is coming with the head, so thats why im getting that.

the reason i like the fidanza flywheel is because it only weighs 8lbs. i used to have one.
but i sold it to my friend to put in his all motor ls setup, and he loves it.

the toda valvetrain is coming with the head, so im definately going to stick with that.

what size injectors should i go with? stock or 270cc?

D-Rob · 01-15-2007, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richard7968

Injectors a little big for that setup????

No they aren't.

Do you even KNOW the fuel demands of a 1.8 liter engine with 11.5~:1 compression, and BIG cams?

310cc's is perfectly fine.

Hell, I run 370cc's on a similar setup.

d16dcoe45 · 01-15-2007, 09:46 AM

The best thing is to ask someone who is currently running that injector size or even larger on a similar setup. On a forum like this you will get lots of answers from people who have never ran what you are planning to run--they have only heard some information--the problem is--it might be right and it might be wrong. Listen to the guys who have actually done it.

doood · 01-15-2007, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanplayjoint

The p30 stock rod thing won't work with ls rods. the ls rod's small ends are too thick for vtec pistons.

that only applies when putting itr or ctr pistons on ls/b16/b17 rods

killerpenguin21 · 01-15-2007, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stewmaster-k

my friend has p30's in his ls and he said that you need to shave them a bit. or what rods do you think i should use? and where could i get them?
-Kevin

incorrect

p30's fit directly onto ls rods...shotpeen the ls rods and use arp rod bolts and your good...thats what im running in my setup.

stewmaster-k · 01-15-2007, 05:57 PM

alright. thanks everyone for the input and advice. im glad that the ALL MOTOR forum is one of the better ones on this site!
-Kevin

Richard... · 01-15-2007, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Rob

No they aren't.

Do you even KNOW the fuel demands of a 1.8 liter engine with 11.5~:1 compression, and BIG cams?

310cc's is perfectly fine.

Hell, I run 370cc's on a similar setup.

guess you could not see the ???? meaning i was wondering and you answered my question in your usual rude manner

bambam · 01-15-2007, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanplayjoint

The p30 stock rod thing won't work with ls rods. the ls rod's small ends are too thick for vtec pistons.

Don't spread misinformation. It's people like you that piss me off. If you don't know something as fact, don't spread it.

D-Rob · 01-16-2007, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richard7968

guess you could not see the ???? meaning i was wondering and you answered my question in your usual rude manner

You are my arch nemesis.

Richard... · 01-16-2007, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Rob

You are my arch nemesis.

lucky me

tell me did you ever get your idol fixed on your ls/vtec?

also those Iridium plugs how did you find them I am offering no comment on them because it is not worth the grilling session

D-Rob · 01-16-2007, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richard7968

lucky me

tell me did you ever get your idol fixed on your ls/vtec?

also those Iridium plugs how did you find them I am offering no comment on them because it is not worth the grilling session

I've never had an idle issue...

Nor do I run iridiums...

Unless of course you aren't talking to me.

EDIT: Ahhh, you read the first post in my build thread? Yes, the idle was resolved in tuning.

And I ditched the iridiums.

Standard NGK BKR7E's for me.

Richard... · 01-16-2007, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Rob

I've never had an idle issue...

Nor do I run iridiums...

Unless of course you aren't talking to me.

EDIT: Ahhh, you read the first post in my build thread? Yes, the idle was resolved in tuning.

And I ditched the iridiums.

Standard NGK BKR7E's for me.

i see and curious have you tried going down a plug to a colder one with a bigger gap and seeing what happens just curious?

ryanplayjoint · 01-16-2007, 06:05 PM

Don't get pissed its H-T. I have the ITR's on ls rods and they needed machining, I thought it would be the same for all dohc vtec pistons.

bambam · 01-16-2007, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanplayjoint

....I thought....

That's the problem.

D-Rob · 01-17-2007, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richard7968

i see and curious have you tried going down a plug to a colder one with a bigger gap and seeing what happens just curious?

I've tried the 8's, yes. Negligible effects over the 7's.

And yes, I've tried every gap imaginable under the sun.

01-14-2007, 07:24 PM	#2
Jay_Sensing Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: I miss the east coast, TX, USA Posts: 2,725	If you look around in here man, you will see that's a pretty common and solid setup. I would just make sure if I was using a DC header it was the JDM R version so it will have a 2.5 collector, you will be pretty satisfied I think. Just check out the dyno thread and you will see what others have made with very similar to let you guess until you get it built and on the dyno. __________________ 1993 White hatch. lsvtec, 12.46@109 all motor, 11.67@116 bottle fed.(Sold) 2000 BB S2000, ARC, Volk, Espelir, Opak, Veilside, APR. (Sold) 2005 GSXR 1000. 9.61@144

01-14-2007, 07:29 PM	#3
stewmaster-k Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Port Washington, Wi, United States Posts: 1,081	Re: (Jay_Sensing) alright thanks for the input! its greatly appreciated! and any other input will be welcome! -Kevin __________________ Vouches: spooledex, poorman's type-r, Stocky, mike, AnotherGSR, NoLimitMotorsports, EvasiveMotorsports.com, Mr. Chow, DisOnesAPlaya, annoyinguy, noboostedEGo, 2ndgentegracer, ej8luver, 1990_integra_DA9, CivicSIR95, vestalfootball72, AM_EK, the1

01-14-2007, 08:49 PM	#4
ryanplayjoint Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Boston, MA, US Posts: 200	Re: (Jay_Sensing) The p30 stock rod thing won't work with ls rods. the ls rod's small ends are too thick for vtec pistons.

01-14-2007, 08:50 PM	#5
stewmaster-k Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Port Washington, Wi, United States Posts: 1,081	Re: (ryanplayjoint) my friend has p30's in his ls and he said that you need to shave them a bit. or what rods do you think i should use? and where could i get them? -Kevin __________________ Vouches: spooledex, poorman's type-r, Stocky, mike, AnotherGSR, NoLimitMotorsports, EvasiveMotorsports.com, Mr. Chow, DisOnesAPlaya, annoyinguy, noboostedEGo, 2ndgentegracer, ej8luver, 1990_integra_DA9, CivicSIR95, vestalfootball72, AM_EK, the1

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stewmaster-k Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Port Washington, Wi, United States Posts: 1,081	Re: (richard7968) well the intake mani is coming with the head, so thats why im getting that. the reason i like the fidanza flywheel is because it only weighs 8lbs. i used to have one. but i sold it to my friend to put in his all motor ls setup, and he loves it. the toda valvetrain is coming with the head, so im definately going to stick with that. what size injectors should i go with? stock or 270cc? __________________ Vouches: spooledex, poorman's type-r, Stocky, mike, AnotherGSR, NoLimitMotorsports, EvasiveMotorsports.com, Mr. Chow, DisOnesAPlaya, annoyinguy, noboostedEGo, 2ndgentegracer, ej8luver, 1990_integra_DA9, CivicSIR95, vestalfootball72, AM_EK, the1

01-15-2007, 09:46 AM	#10
d16dcoe45 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Armonk, NY, USA Posts: 3,729	Re: (D-Rob) The best thing is to ask someone who is currently running that injector size or even larger on a similar setup. On a forum like this you will get lots of answers from people who have never ran what you are planning to run--they have only heard some information--the problem is--it might be right and it might be wrong. Listen to the guys who have actually done it. __________________ Cusco EF master cylinder brace-- brand new, unopened, still in package $75 shipped obo (RHD ONLY!!!) WTB: 88-89 Civic hatch driver side door w/ glass and regulator. Losi xxx4 G+ Associated Rc10 t4 FT Losi xxx BK2 JConcepts BJ4 WE

01-15-2007, 05:57 PM	#13
stewmaster-k Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Port Washington, Wi, United States Posts: 1,081	Re: (killerpenguin21) alright. thanks everyone for the input and advice. im glad that the ALL MOTOR forum is one of the better ones on this site! -Kevin __________________ Vouches: spooledex, poorman's type-r, Stocky, mike, AnotherGSR, NoLimitMotorsports, EvasiveMotorsports.com, Mr. Chow, DisOnesAPlaya, annoyinguy, noboostedEGo, 2ndgentegracer, ej8luver, 1990_integra_DA9, CivicSIR95, vestalfootball72, AM_EK, the1

01-16-2007, 06:05 PM	#20
ryanplayjoint Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Boston, MA, US Posts: 200	Re: (richard7968) Don't get pissed its H-T. I have the ITR's on ls rods and they needed machining, I thought it would be the same for all dohc vtec pistons.

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