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Old 12-09-2006, 04:52 PM   #76
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we use seperate tanks/regulators and some aluminum foil tape you can buy at ace hardware.

The pic posted was an older 304ss manifold with 308L filler.
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Old 12-09-2006, 05:57 PM   #77
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Jesse, you use 316ss now? What are the reason's you switched?

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Old 12-09-2006, 06:05 PM   #78
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we use seperate tanks/regulators and some aluminum foil tape you can buy at ace hardware.

The pic posted was an older 304ss manifold with 308L filler.
I use a seperate tank as well...

I find it a lot easier to regulate the flow and on/off of the gas that way.
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Old 12-09-2006, 06:17 PM   #79
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I have a few full tanks around @ all times just so I never run out , also I have a on-off valve after my purge regulator so once it is set I can just turn it on or off,
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Old 12-09-2006, 07:14 PM   #80
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I like my manifolds beefy to hold the exhaust heat in, and to be extreemly durable.
are you sure about the thicker the tube the more heat it retains??
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Old 12-09-2006, 10:02 PM   #81
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i use 2 330's with separate regulators, works the best for me

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Old 12-09-2006, 11:29 PM   #82
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are you sure about the thicker the tube the more heat it retains??
the thicker stuff works more like a heatsink to disipate heat.
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Old 12-09-2006, 11:40 PM   #83
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are you sure about the thicker the tube the more heat it retains??
Who knows how much it actually helps, but I've heard this from many reputable builders (full-race included). It's more of a durability thing tho.
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the thicker stuff works more like a heatsink to disipate heat.
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Who knows how much it actually helps, but I've heard this from many reputable builders (full-race included). It's more of a durability thing tho.
using thick tube for durability is true

also, most reputable builders are against bracing
(using a separate support other than the tubing supporting the system)

bracing actually becomes a hinderance to longevity
due to stress associated w/ extreme temp changes
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using thick tube for durability is true

also, most reputable builders are against bracing
(using a separate support other than the tubing supporting the system)

bracing actually becomes a hinderance to longevity
due to stress associated w/ extreme temp changes
For sch10 or sch40, but for 16 gauge that needs to be braced.
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Old 12-10-2006, 05:42 PM   #87
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Default Re: Finished up another manifold the other day...well almost. :) (90blackcrx)

I have to disagree. If done right 16g is pretty strong. I don't think I would hang a 42R off of it, but something like a 35R would be fine I'm sure.
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I have to disagree. If done right 16g is pretty strong. I don't think I would hang a 42R off of it, but something like a 35R would be fine I'm sure.
16 gauge needs to be braced, I would never ever think about hanging a turbo off a 16 gauge manifold with no brace.

Tony1 might be able to chime in more since thats all he ever deals with.
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That would be great if he would shed some light on this....
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I have to disagree. If done right 16g is pretty strong. I don't think I would hang a 42R off of it, but something like a 35R would be fine I'm sure.
Can you elaborate the "done right" statement? All ssac manis have decent weld, it is the tubings that always crack, at least on all of the ones I've helped fixing.
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I believe even if there done right, 16ga needs to be braced. Just my opinion, I myself will not make 16ga manifolds for anyone, unless I myself am bracing the turbo.
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Old 12-10-2006, 06:17 PM   #92
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it has to be braced, regardless.
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Can you elaborate the "done right" statement? All ssac manis have decent weld, it is the tubings that always crack, at least on all of the ones I've helped fixing.
if you've ever closely examine a ssac manifold...they're mig welded...and then gone over with a tig welder.
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if you've ever closely examine a ssac manifold...they're mig welded...and then gone over with a tig welder.
Really? thats interesting...especially for such thin tubing. hrm.

But I'd agree with the 16g manifolds. For it too last, it's going to need to be braced. Sure some manifolds are more durable than others (JG's 16g ram horn isn't braced for instance), but if the turbo has enough leverage on the manifold to where cracking might even be remotely possible, I'd brace it.
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hell yeah they are. they pulse over the mig weld. ive noticed that forever now.
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so do you guys mostly still use sched 40 to make your stuff?

My local fab guy gives me an attitude every time i bring my stuff in for finish welding, hes like sched 40 is too damn heavy, blah blah blah. I continue to use it because its strong as hell, but after working with some sched 10 stuff i dont really think sched 40 is necessary, 10 is real beefy as it is, especially to support the 28/30/35r series.
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so do you guys mostly still use sched 40 to make your stuff?

My local fab guy gives me an attitude every time i bring my stuff in for finish welding, hes like sched 40 is too damn heavy, blah blah blah. I continue to use it because its strong as hell, but after working with some sched 10 stuff i dont really think sched 40 is necessary, 10 is real beefy as it is, especially to support the 28/30/35r series.
The way I see it...

A cracked manifold is going to cost me money. Especially because right now, I don't have the sales that some of these other guy's do (I've kept it that way on purpose, until I can really invest my time into it). So in essance, the stronger I can make it, the better.

I'll probubly end up making the switch at some point though. It's quicker to cut, quicker to weld, quicker to bevel...and so on.
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sced 40 does not cut quicker than 10 and its the same amount of work to prep it.

sched 10 is less work period.

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sced 40 does not cut quicker than 10 and its the same amount of work to prep it.

sched 10 is less work period.

I don't know if you read what I wrote wrong, but thats exactly what I was getting at...since I've mentioned I use sch40 plenty of times.
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