FAQ: What engine should I put in my EM2/ES1?

[InanimateCarbonRod]

If you can provide proof that Honda made an EM2/ES1/ES2 with a B-series engine from the factory, it'll be emissions legal. GOOD LUCK

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[ajgrosch716]

Originally Posted by InanimateCarbonRod

If you can provide proof that Honda made an EM2/ES1/ES2 with a B-series engine from the factory, it'll be emissions legal.

GOOD LUCK

so your saying honda made a EM2/ES1/ES2 with a K-series engine from the factory? if not then woudnlt K-series be illegal?

[InanimateCarbonRod]

Because you can get a 2001 car with a K-series.

I guess I didn't mean it had to be specifically a EM/ES.

Essentially you can't put an engine from an older generation car into a newer generation car.

Anyways, yea, a b-series engine would be cheaper and easier to come by, but that savings would easily and quickly be eaten up with custom fabbed mounts, etc. Anything is possible with money though..

Case in point: http://www.importtuner.com/fea....html

[ajgrosch716]

i hear, and came across that hasport is making mounts for B-series into a 7thgen. i read they should be out in fall. but who knows. yeah im not sure on the legalitly of it but for emission they just plug our cars in. how would they know we arnt running the right engine?

[toyomatt84]

Originally Posted by ajgrosch716

i hear, and came across that hasport is making mounts for B-series into a 7thgen. i read they should be out in fall. but who knows. yeah im not sure on the legalitly of it but for emission they just plug our cars in. how would they know we arnt running the right engine?

This topic has been covered to death on this forum, bud. You could have searched for this information. I've posted it well over a dozen times.

The only B-series you can run in a 7th Gen. Civic and be legal, would be an Integra from 2001, in a 2001 7th Gen. But, even then, you'll need so much money dumped into custom wiring, harnesses, ECU, driveshafts, motor mounts, etc... that it would be cheaper to run a K20/K24. And, for the money, the K will always be the better option.

[ajgrosch716]

yeah i searched, but then i searched else where and i got wishy washy answers

[DsevenEm2]

wishy washy wata funny worrdd!! yea no the k will definatly be the way to go. b would be cool..probably more options as far as building it but for the money it would cost what the f&$k.....

[thinknology]

I wish I still had my B16 thats a fun lil engine...

[i-VTEC_DOHC]

wow i thought i wouldnt see this thread at the top of the list ever again... lol

[thinknology]

Ya I read it and started think about my old car... then I got all sentimental and started crying and such so I had to let it out.

[ajgrosch716]

well got it all straight, friend keeps thinking a drive and EK. lol sure a B may be cheaper but swap into a EK then a K. But i dont have a EK. K it is. although a B would be fun

[i-VTEC_DOHC]

pussy!!! hahaa im jk... we understand

[a_barron_86]

ok, not so new guy but still having trouble with the lingo, all i know is that i have a stock motor, where can i find out about engines types of engines, names like ek, b16, my friends talk about it and im always loss, Im the guy saying, Yea thats cool, with a blunt in my hand, any how any websites or mags, i live in texas,

[toyomatt84]

Originally Posted by a_barron_86

ok, not so new guy but still having trouble with the lingo, all i know is that i have a stock motor, where can i find out about engines types of engines, names like ek, b16, my friends talk about it and im always loss, Im the guy saying, Yea thats cool, with a blunt in my hand, any how any websites or mags, i live in texas,

Check the FAQ's: http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1759217

They're stickied for a reason.

[vbkapousidis]

I am planning, at some point down the line, to do a K20 swap. Would it save me money to purchase a K20A3 and an A2 head or JDM RSX Type-R head to swap out?

[katzenjammer84]

Originally Posted by vbkapousidis

I am planning, at some point down the line, to do a K20 swap. Would it save me money to purchase a K20A3 and an A2 head or JDM RSX Type-R head to swap out?

The head, while providing better flow, will be negligible in gains compared to a stock K20A2, simply because the K20A2 and K20A use high compression pistons whereas the K20A3 does not.

[vbkapousidis]

So i would end up spend as much or more b/c i would need to get new pistons and rings?

[toyomatt84]

Originally Posted by vbkapousidis

So i would end up spend as much or more b/c i would need to get new pistons and rings?

Yes, you would.

[vbkapousidis]

Thanks toyomatt

[vbkapousidis]

Toyomatt you seem to know alot here is a challenging question and something i
was thing about doing even thought it would be a huge waist of money.

If I installed a K20A2 could i use the CR-V transmission with the TSX transmission
Gearing? I want to have the 4WD

[toyomatt84]

Originally Posted by vbkapousidis

Toyomatt you seem to know alot here is a challenging question and something i
was thing about doing even thought it would be a huge waist of money.

If I installed a K20A2 could i use the CR-V transmission with the TSX transmission
Gearing? I want to have the 4WD

You would have to make a driveshaft tunnel through the floorboards, remove the rear sub-frame and put in the CR-V sub-frame, then run custom axles up front and a custom driveshaft to the rear differential. The car would probably not sit all that low anymore, because of the ground clearance required for the rear differential, and you're easily looking at $8,000 in just parts. And, there's no guarantee that the car will run right after all is said and done.

[katzenjammer84]

Plus the differential is about the size of a grapefruit, so you couldn't put much power down.

[recaroem2]

good thread

[welltal89]

i think i learned more here reading these three pages than i have in my whole life...what a waste of 19 years...

[hondahonda05]

Originally Posted by ajgrosch716

so your saying honda made a EM2/ES1/ES2 with a K-series engine from the factory? if not then woudnlt K-series be illegal?

Quoting an old post but for what its worth. Honda did manufacture a 2001-2005 EM/ES chassi with a K20A3. IIRC the guy was a member here and from Puerto Rico.