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B18C Turbo · 10-01-2006, 11:29 PM

Wow. I tried to PM you about the catch cans but its not letting me? I want to know what size -an lines your using. Also where your tapping the lines in the block for the can on the firewall.

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itekdu · 10-02-2006, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spriggan

Pictures of my bay from HIN :
Don't mind the dull valve cover...its in the works

Nice bay man!

hybrid93SIvic · 10-02-2006, 12:56 AM

spriggan..pmed you

B16B_coupe · 10-02-2006, 03:23 AM

nice bay!!good work man

JDMorgan · 10-02-2006, 04:58 AM

hey spriggin, is your reserve(next to the catch can) npt threaded? if so who makes it? if not i guess i will just use 3/8" rubber line.

what is it to also?

Chase · 10-02-2006, 07:28 AM

.:cesar:. ELUSIVESIR · 10-02-2006, 08:56 AM

IMO, K Series motor run way better than B Series motors do. I went out and built a B18C5/B18C1 and it cost me about 13K. It made great power and I loved to drive my DA Integra with it, but the fact of the matter is; it was a race motor!

When I got my K20-R with minimal upgrades like a R-Crew Header and BDL Throttle Body, it felt way better than my B Series build. Now that the motor has a few more upgrades it runs AMAZING and its not even close to being built the way my B Series was.

Here's the thing: K Series swaps are great if you want the performance and have the money to swap it. But B Series swaps are great for "build as you go" setups. In the end I spent about the same amount of money swapping a K Series motor in my Civic that I did for my B Series in my Integra.

NAallTheWAY: Here's a new pic!

-NA-aLL-thE-wAy- · 10-02-2006, 10:14 AM

Time to settle this.

K vs B

The B was developed in the mid-late 80s and was introduced in MY88.

The K was developed in the late 90s/early 200X's and introduced in MY02.

The B has technology that is over 18 years old.

The K was developed using all of the lessons learned from the B, developing new technology, and improving on old technology.

The B has had 18 years of aftermarket support.

The K has only had 3-4 years of aftermarket support.

The B has a timing belt that has to be replaced.

The K has a timing chain that does not.

The B only has 5 speeds in the tranny.

The K has 6 speeds in the tranny.

The K weighs the same as the B with an extra gear and more displacement.

The B has a distributor.

The K has direct ignition.

The oversized valves in the built B's are the same size as the stock K valves.

The B head port/polished flows about as well as a stock K head.

Do we even want to get into crank/girdle design?

You can bolt a K20 head on a 2.4L block and have DD reliability and torque that an all motor B can only dream about.

How many cars run 9's all motor with B's?

Multiple cars are running 9's with all motor K's in them, including one with 350whp.

The B hasn't been in production since MY01. The more motors that get blown, the more that get trapped under the hoods of ricer show cars, the harder they will be to come by.

The K is in virtually every Honda/Acura line. More cars are being produced, more are being wrecked, and more K's are available for swaps.

In summary:

K > B

No offense to the B enthusiasts, I love the B, but the K is the future.

maxpsi · 10-02-2006, 10:38 AM

You forgot:

Sell a kidney, donate plasma, and rob a convenient store to afford a full, reliable K swap.

-NA-aLL-thE-wAy- · 10-02-2006, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxpsi

You forgot:

Sell a kidney, donate plasma, and rob a convenient store to afford a full, reliable K swap.

You forgot sell a testicle.

You're right. The swap is pricey. You often have to get a radiator, header, harness, Hondata, fuel system, crossmember, etc all at once for it to work.

With a B swap you can basically use all the stock components and make it work.

Hayce · 10-02-2006, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EF8kid

Can someone point me in the right direction to get this cam gear side mount?

H8 O ATE · 10-02-2006, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xDEFTONESx

^is that the old rage spaghetti header?

im pretty sure its a bisimoto header

SkankyEJ7 · 10-02-2006, 11:35 AM

looks to be an avid?

SPOON_BeIgHtEeNsEe · 10-02-2006, 12:43 PM

not as clean as others in here... but heres mine...

2coupes · 10-02-2006, 12:59 PM

a fellow coupe council member's EJ1

nerdsports · 10-02-2006, 01:10 PM

Well, here's a good link to show you some in progress pics of a VW receiving some shaved love.

http://www.azevedomotorsports.com/gallery/miguel/

SkankyEJ7 · 10-02-2006, 01:17 PM

well that TOTALLY ruined my secret

Pandahatch · 10-02-2006, 01:34 PM

For some reason, I don't like that VW bay at all. Lost all shape an contour with that metal monstrosity in there. I like the smoothed ones with the OEM metal MUCH better.

IMO, something like this, KIIILLLLLSSSS he blue one:

Modified by PandaHatch at 9:45 PM 10/2/2006

Kevin · 10-02-2006, 02:18 PM

I think the air filter ruins the blue one, should've ran it into the fender or something.

Pandahatch · 10-02-2006, 04:40 PM

More STELLAR VW bays...followed these 2 during the build...

-NA-aLL-thE-wAy- · 10-02-2006, 04:51 PM

/\ /\ /\ Now thats clean.

I think the blue one is a little over the top for my taste. I thought he'd atleast tuck the booster/MC since he was doing all that work. It must be DD cuz he kept the wipers too.

SkankyEJ7 · 10-02-2006, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NAallTheWAY

/\ /\ /\ Now thats clean.

It must be DD cuz he kept the wipers too.

my car is my daily driver, i havae wipers but no wiper wires

nerdsports · 10-02-2006, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkankyEJ7

my car is my daily driver, i havae wipers but no wiper wires

My car is my daily driver, I have no wipers. And the wiring is unplugged.

SkankyEJ7 · 10-02-2006, 05:32 PM

oh i meant visible wires, the wipers work.

-NA-aLL-thE-wAy- · 10-02-2006, 05:39 PM

I'm still mid-build on my project. No wipers, no wiper motor, no wiper wiring. RainX ftw.

10-02-2006, 03:23 AM	#1254
B16B_coupe Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Gods wonderland Posts: 12,619	Re: (hybrid93SIvic) nice bay!!good work man __________________ Mugen mf8s,ek9 cluster,takata 5pt harness for sale. pm me for details Function>Form flickr Dont shop at zerolift in cini OHIO

10-02-2006, 04:58 AM	#1255
JDMorgan Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Danbury, CT, 06804 Posts: 3,843	hey spriggin, is your reserve(next to the catch can) npt threaded? if so who makes it? if not i guess i will just use 3/8" rubber line. what is it to also? __________________ new parts for sale thread!!! old parts for sale thread!!! MY EBAY! Check them out.

10-02-2006, 07:28 AM	#1256
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10-02-2006, 08:56 AM	#1257
.:cesar:. ELUSIVESIR Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mannheim, Germany Posts: 1,089	Re: (xDEFTONESx) IMO, K Series motor run way better than B Series motors do. I went out and built a B18C5/B18C1 and it cost me about 13K. It made great power and I loved to drive my DA Integra with it, but the fact of the matter is; it was a race motor! When I got my K20-R with minimal upgrades like a R-Crew Header and BDL Throttle Body, it felt way better than my B Series build. Now that the motor has a few more upgrades it runs AMAZING and its not even close to being built the way my B Series was. Here's the thing: K Series swaps are great if you want the performance and have the money to swap it. But B Series swaps are great for "build as you go" setups. In the end I spent about the same amount of money swapping a K Series motor in my Civic that I did for my B Series in my Integra. NAallTheWAY: Here's a new pic!

10-02-2006, 10:14 AM	#1258
-NA-aLL-thE-wAy- EFSS153 2007 Acura RDX My Garage Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 13,892	Re: (ELUSIVESIR) Time to settle this. K vs B The B was developed in the mid-late 80s and was introduced in MY88. The K was developed in the late 90s/early 200X's and introduced in MY02. The B has technology that is over 18 years old. The K was developed using all of the lessons learned from the B, developing new technology, and improving on old technology. The B has had 18 years of aftermarket support. The K has only had 3-4 years of aftermarket support. The B has a timing belt that has to be replaced. The K has a timing chain that does not. The B only has 5 speeds in the tranny. The K has 6 speeds in the tranny. The K weighs the same as the B with an extra gear and more displacement. The B has a distributor. The K has direct ignition. The oversized valves in the built B's are the same size as the stock K valves. The B head port/polished flows about as well as a stock K head. Do we even want to get into crank/girdle design? You can bolt a K20 head on a 2.4L block and have DD reliability and torque that an all motor B can only dream about. How many cars run 9's all motor with B's? Multiple cars are running 9's with all motor K's in them, including one with 350whp. The B hasn't been in production since MY01. The more motors that get blown, the more that get trapped under the hoods of ricer show cars, the harder they will be to come by. The K is in virtually every Honda/Acura line. More cars are being produced, more are being wrecked, and more K's are available for swaps. In summary: K > B No offense to the B enthusiasts, I love the B, but the K is the future. __________________ "I went to the theatre with the author of a successful play. He insisted on explaining everything. He told me what to watch, the details of the direction, the errors of the property man, the foibles of the star. He anticipated all of my surprises and ruined the evening. Never again! And mark you, the greatest author of all made no such mistake." — Christopher Morley Imago Dei Part Out: 1991 Civic Wagon FS: Black BDL Industries K Series Fuel Rail

10-02-2006, 10:38 AM	#1259
maxpsi Member 2000 Honda Civic My Garage Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Birmingham, AL, United States Posts: 3,142	Re: (NAallTheWAY) You forgot: Sell a kidney, donate plasma, and rob a convenient store to afford a full, reliable K swap. __________________ 2008 NBP Honda Fit 72 Camaro SS 350 Placer Gold

10-02-2006, 11:35 AM	#1263
SkankyEJ7 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Auburn, AL, usa Posts: 7,962	Re: (hayce) looks to be an avid? __________________ 2003 RSX type s 1998 civic lx wēk´sôs ĭn'dustrēz

10-02-2006, 12:43 PM	#1264
SPOON_BeIgHtEeNsEe Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 11,495	Re: (NAallTheWAY) not as clean as others in here... but heres mine... __________________ garage sale <<<==== CLICK HERE!

10-02-2006, 12:59 PM	#1265
2coupes Dumb and can't read! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Champaign, IL, USA Posts: 1,937	a fellow coupe council member's EJ1 __________________ [b]CoupeCouncil Member #8 95 EJ1 <FONT COLOR="red">Milano Red</FONT> 93 EJ2 <FONT COLOR="teal">Aztec Green Pearl</FONT> Coupe Council! We don't need no stinkin' hatches! <FONT COLOR="red">e</FONT><FONT COLOR="blue">B</FONT><FONT COLOR="orange">a</FONT><FONT COLOR="green">y</FONT> built EJ1

10-02-2006, 01:10 PM	#1266
nerdsports Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 5,527	Well, here's a good link to show you some in progress pics of a VW receiving some shaved love. http://www.azevedomotorsports.com/gallery/miguel/

10-02-2006, 01:17 PM	#1267
SkankyEJ7 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Auburn, AL, usa Posts: 7,962	Re: (nerdsports) well that TOTALLY ruined my secret __________________ 2003 RSX type s 1998 civic lx wēk´sôs ĭn'dustrēz

10-02-2006, 01:34 PM	#1268
Pandahatch Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Posts: 2,833	For some reason, I don't like that VW bay at all. Lost all shape an contour with that metal monstrosity in there. I like the smoothed ones with the OEM metal MUCH better. IMO, something like this, KIIILLLLLSSSS he blue one: Modified by PandaHatch at 9:45 PM 10/2/2006 __________________ STRAIGHTEDGE HARDCORE X513X The V.3.0. K20A-DB BUILD THREAD!!! http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2393544 HYBRID RACING

10-02-2006, 02:18 PM	#1269
Kevin Member 1990 Acura Integra Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: MIRAMAR, FL Posts: 2,505	Re: (PandaHatch) I think the air filter ruins the blue one, should've ran it into the fender or something. __________________ 90 Integra LS turbo E85 11.80@126mph on radials \| 99 Camry v6 5 spd 14.1@99mph Grant's Custom Rigging \| Florida Honda Crew \| The Horsepower Connection

10-02-2006, 04:40 PM	#1270
Pandahatch Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Posts: 2,833	More STELLAR VW bays...followed these 2 during the build... __________________ STRAIGHTEDGE HARDCORE X513X The V.3.0. K20A-DB BUILD THREAD!!! http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2393544 HYBRID RACING

10-02-2006, 04:51 PM	#1271
-NA-aLL-thE-wAy- EFSS153 2007 Acura RDX My Garage Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 13,892	Re: (PandaHatch) /\ /\ /\ Now thats clean. I think the blue one is a little over the top for my taste. I thought he'd atleast tuck the booster/MC since he was doing all that work. It must be DD cuz he kept the wipers too. __________________ "I went to the theatre with the author of a successful play. He insisted on explaining everything. He told me what to watch, the details of the direction, the errors of the property man, the foibles of the star. He anticipated all of my surprises and ruined the evening. Never again! And mark you, the greatest author of all made no such mistake." — Christopher Morley Imago Dei Part Out: 1991 Civic Wagon FS: Black BDL Industries K Series Fuel Rail

10-02-2006, 05:32 PM	#1274
SkankyEJ7 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Auburn, AL, usa Posts: 7,962	Re: (nerdsports) oh i meant visible wires, the wipers work. __________________ 2003 RSX type s 1998 civic lx wēk´sôs ĭn'dustrēz

10-02-2006, 05:39 PM	#1275
-NA-aLL-thE-wAy- EFSS153 2007 Acura RDX My Garage Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 13,892	Re: (SkankyEJ7) I'm still mid-build on my project. No wipers, no wiper motor, no wiper wiring. RainX ftw. __________________ "I went to the theatre with the author of a successful play. He insisted on explaining everything. He told me what to watch, the details of the direction, the errors of the property man, the foibles of the star. He anticipated all of my surprises and ruined the evening. Never again! And mark you, the greatest author of all made no such mistake." — Christopher Morley Imago Dei Part Out: 1991 Civic Wagon FS: Black BDL Industries K Series Fuel Rail

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