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sheepey · 07-02-2006, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bambam

That is directly from ARP's instructions man.

cool cool. Thank you sir

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vivid 02 · 07-02-2006, 01:09 PM

Very nice write up

schpootypie · 07-02-2006, 06:32 PM

Awesome write-up. But I have one question, what ecu do you recommend using on a LS/Vtec setup? Also, I'm planning on doing a LS/VTEC build this winter, would it be OK to PM you any questions I have?

bambam · 07-02-2006, 06:48 PM

You can PM with ANY questions you may have.

As for the ecu. Honestly, it doesn't matter since you should be chipping it and tuning it anyway. A chipped P28 will work fine, as long as you get it tuned.
There isn't any one ecu that is going to work correctly for this setup. It's not a stock honda motor and honda never made an ECU to go with it, obviously. There is not a "best" stock ecu for this kind of setup.

EK Josh · 07-02-2006, 06:59 PM

Somewhat of a random question considering the amount of info in this thread, but when you installed the valve cover did you use any sealant? Or did you simply clean the surface areas, put the gasket on the valve cover and then torque everything down?

bambam · 07-02-2006, 07:25 PM

If you look closely at the valve cover gasket, there are little square shaped "pads" in some areas. Apply a SMALL dab of RTV there. That'll do it.

Stins~b20VTEC · 07-02-2006, 07:33 PM

good info bro...wish i would have seen this before i posted about most of the shit you already put out...

EK Josh · 07-02-2006, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bambam

If you look closely at the valve cover gasket, there are little square shaped "pads" in some areas. Apply a SMALL dab of RTV there. That'll do it.

Thank you. Awesome thread. I have it bookmarked now

itgsr98 · 07-02-2006, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bambam

Now that the head is installed, we may install the oil line and timing belt. Follow the instructions included with your lsvtec oil line kit, as every kit is different. But, what ever you do, don't forget to teflon tape all fittings! The kit I am using is from full-race.com and is a proven kit. It replaces the factory oil pressure sending unit with a "T" in which the unit and oil line are screwed into. It's simple, and that's why I like it. I like the Golden Eagles oil sandwich adapter, but they include the wrong head gasket in there kits, which is why I will never use one.

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question? what's wrong with the golden eagle head gasket fitment. i just finished an ls/vtec build using there vtec kit and didnt notice any issues. plz explain. thanks.

bambam · 07-02-2006, 09:06 PM

Alot of people have had problems with the vtec head gasket. You are supposed to use the gasket that matches the block with this setup to prevent leaks.

You may or may not experience leaks. If you don't, cool. If you do, buy the gasket that matches the block.

Modified by bambam at 10:01 PM 2/29/2008

red808teg · 07-02-2006, 09:19 PM

fabulous, the has been none greater than this thanks alot you cleared up some very unanswered questions I had

EK Josh · 07-02-2006, 09:54 PM

I plan on building a b20vtec and when I've looked online at the GE lsvtec conversion kit it always gives you a choice of what size headgasket you would like to purchase. Usually it's between 81-86mm.

For reference - http://robearracing.com/pd_gol...n.cfm

Cesar_CPR · 07-02-2006, 10:00 PM

nice build

bambam · 07-02-2006, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GGhatchie

I plan on building a b20vtec and when I've looked online at the GE lsvtec conversion kit it always gives you a choice of what size headgasket you would like to purchase. Usually it's between 81-86mm.

For reference - http://robearracing.com/pd_gol...n.cfm

what's your question?

EK Josh · 07-02-2006, 10:48 PM

You were saying that the GE kit provides the wrong headgasket, but that link shows you being able to select the gasket you need. I guess I was just pointing out the fact that maybe that's a new thing and I wasn't sure if you were aware of it.

bambam · 07-02-2006, 11:33 PM

no...I was saying that the "vtec" headgasket is the wrong headgasket. It doesn't matter which one's you can select...they're vtec headgaskets.

EK Josh · 07-03-2006, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bambam

no...I was saying that the "vtec" headgasket is the wrong headgasket. It doesn't matter which one's you can select...they're vtec headgaskets.

Thank you for the clarification. I guess it doesn't matter if I choose the correct bore because the gasket is wrong either way. You saved me another headache

she_go · 07-03-2006, 09:43 PM

nice write up with detailed pics

DC2 Mang · 07-03-2006, 10:33 PM

very nice write up

the solution to the all too common lsvtec questions

No_Fear · 07-04-2006, 12:24 AM

good article

iheartmyej8 · 07-04-2006, 05:06 PM

can you use b16 oil and water pump?

bambam · 07-04-2006, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iheartmyda

can you use b16 oil and water pump?

Yes, B16 water pumps are the same as the ITR/GSR pumps, as well as the CTR pumps. All dohc vtec bseries water pumps are 22T. As for the oil pump, it depends on what year the pump is from.
You want an oil pump from a 94+ GSR or 96+ LS/ITR/CTR/B16. If its a PRE-96 B16 oil pump, it will work, but won't pump at the higher rate.

I also went back and edited that part, so that there won't be any futher confusion.

iheartmyej8 · 07-04-2006, 08:24 PM

sweet. just a question i have been meaning to ask someone with some knowledge. i got a b16a2 oil and water pump. thanks for the clarification.

my ls.v is up for sale.....

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1679696

98vtec · 07-04-2006, 10:25 PM

great thread, should go in the FAQ

oldskool teggy · 07-05-2006, 11:59 PM

do you think that the stock rods with arp rod bolts and acl bearings will take 9500 rpm needed on skunk stg 2 and bc stg 4? or is 9k the limit you take yours to?

07-02-2006, 01:09 PM	#27
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07-02-2006, 06:32 PM	#28
schpootypie Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mandan, ND, USA Posts: 413	Re: How to build a "reliable" lsvtec/b20vtec (bambam) Awesome write-up. But I have one question, what ecu do you recommend using on a LS/Vtec setup? Also, I'm planning on doing a LS/VTEC build this winter, would it be OK to PM you any questions I have? __________________ Check out the hatch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2160665

07-02-2006, 06:48 PM	#29
bambam Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Mystic, CT, USA Posts: 2,490	Re: How to build a "reliable" lsvtec/b20vtec (schpootypie) You can PM with ANY questions you may have. As for the ecu. Honestly, it doesn't matter since you should be chipping it and tuning it anyway. A chipped P28 will work fine, as long as you get it tuned. There isn't any one ecu that is going to work correctly for this setup. It's not a stock honda motor and honda never made an ECU to go with it, obviously. There is not a "best" stock ecu for this kind of setup. __________________ -Vouches are in my Bio. http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif All-Motor Forum '03 ABP RSX Type-S NAVY. Out to sea until Early September. Sorry fellas.

07-02-2006, 06:59 PM	#30
EK Josh Member 1997 Acura Integra Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Garden Grove, CA, 714 Posts: 3,994	Re: How to build a "reliable" lsvtec/b20vtec (bambam) Somewhat of a random question considering the amount of info in this thread, but when you installed the valve cover did you use any sealant? Or did you simply clean the surface areas, put the gasket on the valve cover and then torque everything down? __________________ \|\|'97 Integra GS-R\|\|

07-02-2006, 07:25 PM	#31
bambam Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Mystic, CT, USA Posts: 2,490	Re: How to build a "reliable" lsvtec/b20vtec (GGhatchie) If you look closely at the valve cover gasket, there are little square shaped "pads" in some areas. Apply a SMALL dab of RTV there. That'll do it. __________________ -Vouches are in my Bio. http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif All-Motor Forum '03 ABP RSX Type-S NAVY. Out to sea until Early September. Sorry fellas.

07-02-2006, 07:33 PM	#32
Stins~b20VTEC Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: victorville, ca, usa Posts: 20	Re: How to build a "reliable" lsvtec/b20vtec (bambam) good info bro...wish i would have seen this before i posted about most of the shit you already put out... __________________ the hatchback brigade... jus cuz you pour syrup on shit...it doesn't make it pancakes...

07-02-2006, 09:06 PM	#35
bambam Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Mystic, CT, USA Posts: 2,490	Re: How to build a "reliable" lsvtec/b20vtec (itgsr98) Alot of people have had problems with the vtec head gasket. You are supposed to use the gasket that matches the block with this setup to prevent leaks. You may or may not experience leaks. If you don't, cool. If you do, buy the gasket that matches the block. Modified by bambam at 10:01 PM 2/29/2008 __________________ -Vouches are in my Bio. http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif All-Motor Forum '03 ABP RSX Type-S NAVY. Out to sea until Early September. Sorry fellas.

07-02-2006, 09:19 PM	#36
red808teg Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: honolulu, hi, us Posts: 30	fabulous, the has been none greater than this thanks alot you cleared up some very unanswered questions I had

07-02-2006, 09:54 PM	#37
EK Josh Member 1997 Acura Integra Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Garden Grove, CA, 714 Posts: 3,994	Re: How to build a "reliable" lsvtec/b20vtec (bambam) I plan on building a b20vtec and when I've looked online at the GE lsvtec conversion kit it always gives you a choice of what size headgasket you would like to purchase. Usually it's between 81-86mm. For reference - http://robearracing.com/pd_gol...n.cfm __________________ \|\|'97 Integra GS-R\|\|

07-02-2006, 10:00 PM	#38
Cesar_CPR Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 165	Re: How to build a "reliable" lsvtec/b20vtec (SiR Inspired ED7) nice build

07-02-2006, 10:48 PM	#40
EK Josh Member 1997 Acura Integra Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Garden Grove, CA, 714 Posts: 3,994	Re: How to build a "reliable" lsvtec/b20vtec (bambam) You were saying that the GE kit provides the wrong headgasket, but that link shows you being able to select the gasket you need. I guess I was just pointing out the fact that maybe that's a new thing and I wasn't sure if you were aware of it. __________________ \|\|'97 Integra GS-R\|\|

07-02-2006, 11:33 PM	#41
bambam Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Mystic, CT, USA Posts: 2,490	Re: How to build a "reliable" lsvtec/b20vtec (GGhatchie) no...I was saying that the "vtec" headgasket is the wrong headgasket. It doesn't matter which one's you can select...they're vtec headgaskets. __________________ -Vouches are in my Bio. http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif All-Motor Forum '03 ABP RSX Type-S NAVY. Out to sea until Early September. Sorry fellas.

07-03-2006, 09:43 PM	#43
she_go Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kaneohe, HI, US Posts: 20	nice write up with detailed pics __________________ don't be ignorant...ask questions

07-03-2006, 10:33 PM	#44
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07-04-2006, 12:24 AM	#45
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07-04-2006, 05:06 PM	#46
iheartmyej8 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: cashville, TN, US Posts: 1,622	Re: (kaoss_11) can you use b16 oil and water pump? __________________ 00 ebp em1 daily 96 hatch project auto-x *my build*

07-04-2006, 08:24 PM	#48
iheartmyej8 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: cashville, TN, US Posts: 1,622	Re: (bambam) sweet. just a question i have been meaning to ask someone with some knowledge. i got a b16a2 oil and water pump. thanks for the clarification. my ls.v is up for sale..... http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1679696 __________________ 00 ebp em1 daily 96 hatch project auto-x *my build*

07-04-2006, 10:25 PM	#49
98vtec Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: RealHomeMadeTurbo Posts: 14,228	Re: (iheartmyda) great thread, should go in the FAQ

07-05-2006, 11:59 PM	#50
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