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[the JigGa mAn]

Originally Posted by SonicK20Z

dude you beat a Lotus? lol, wtf? nice runs BTW.

the lotus was at the wrong track

[K20Z3Si]

Good shit my man, like the video

[DC5Gurl]

Originally Posted by xlur8ed

...why am I complaining? Cause I was hooking perfectly at vtec and pulling 2.15 60's! That is horrible. These tires will hook 1.9's and I have personally seen it. "Any higher and I would be burning them up".....lol..well, at that tire pressure, sure. At that launch technique, sure... But putting technique into the launch with a higher rpm will result in a better 60'. Spend a little bit of time on the track, and even learning about the DC5 your boyfriend has for example. I have watched a CTR swapped EG launch at 7k w/BFG DR's and hook 1.8-1.9 all day. No traction bars, no upgraded axles, just straight up driving. I had no need to launch any other way, cause what I was doing was working well for the limited launch rpm I have to deal with...

Sorry, you may have SEEN 1.9's out of these tires on a DIFFERENT CAR, but the FG2 is too heavy and has too little torque to pull 1.9s. Unless you do some MASSIVE weight reduction, or add go F/I somehow, it ain't gonna happen.

That thing with the swapped EG's pulling 1.8-1.9s ALL DAY is because they weigh in at ~2000lbs, with such little weight dropping the clutch at 7000 will get it moving off the line a lot more effeciently than your 3000+ lb FWD porker with driver and only 140ish ft lbs of torque.

If you really think you're gonna pull 1.9's in your FG2 with n/a mods, keep dreaming sucker.

Hey you just learned something today.

[roadawg]

Originally Posted by DC5Gurl

Sorry, you may have SEEN 1.9's out of these tires on a DIFFERENT CAR, but the FG2 is too heavy and has too little torque to pull 1.9s. Unless you do some MASSIVE weight reduction, or add go F/I somehow, it ain't gonna happen.

That thing with the swapped EG's pulling 1.8-1.9s ALL DAY is because they weigh in at ~2000lbs, with such little weight dropping the clutch at 7000 will get it moving off the line a lot more effeciently than your 3000+ lb FWD porker with driver and only 140ish ft lbs of torque.

If you really think you're gonna pull 1.9's in your FG2 with n/a mods, keep dreaming sucker.

Hey you just learned something today.

With slicks and a high enough RPM launch a 3,000 lb car, even with "only" 140 tq can pull sub 2.0 60 fts, especially with a limited slip.

[Ding]

Originally Posted by roadawg

With slicks and a high enough RPM launch a 3,000 lb car, even with "only" 140 tq can pull sub 2.0 60 fts, especially with a limited slip.

This is what we all know, but DC5Gurl's response is going to be "The limited slip has nothing to do with launching and only helps SLIGHTLY in turns." Haha. Yea I think he can hit a sub 2.0 60ft, but we need to get rid of this damn 5500 rpm thing in neutral.

[RacingShoeBox]

just texted lenny about this hell be happy to hear maybe people will start believen us jersey kids that these cars are makin good power... lol i think hell also be wanting some radials now 2 haha he was happy to have the best time on here ... while it lasted at least ... hes tryin 2 get 13s without the tires which i hope he can i just dont know about launching on those tires hes gona have 2 drive the hell out of that car... did you powershift?

[xlur8ed]

Originally Posted by DC5Gurl

Sorry, you may have SEEN 1.9's out of these tires on a DIFFERENT CAR, but the FG2 is too heavy and has too little torque to pull 1.9s. Unless you do some MASSIVE weight reduction, or add go F/I somehow, it ain't gonna happen.

That thing with the swapped EG's pulling 1.8-1.9s ALL DAY is because they weigh in at ~2000lbs, with such little weight dropping the clutch at 7000 will get it moving off the line a lot more effeciently than your 3000+ lb FWD porker with driver and only 140ish ft lbs of torque.

If you really think you're gonna pull 1.9's in your FG2 with n/a mods, keep dreaming sucker.

Hey you just learned something today.

It is obvious that you are out to try and prove something to those on HT. That is fine, but it is getting old. The EG I spoke of was a sedan and not 2000lbs. Besides the point, but please try to be more polite.... you will gain much more respect (I started on HT as a 'know it all' and soon found out how little I knew) by being nice.

I don't want to argue back and forth anymore, as it gets nobody anywhere, but makes everyone feel stupider for contributing to a useless point.

[roadawg]

Originally Posted by 90CRXLS

This is what we all know, but DC5Gurl's response is going to be "The limited slip has nothing to do with launching and only helps SLIGHTLY in turns." Haha. Yea I think he can hit a sub 2.0 60ft, but we need to get rid of this damn 5500 rpm thing in neutral.

Well, I would have to say she is partly correct, even though an LSD can help a lot when turning, but a limited slip can help when accelerating under poor traction conditions.

With an open diff, the motor always applies the same amount of tq to both front wheels. Meaning if one wheel starts to slip, the wheel with good traction is only getting the very small amount of torque that can be applied to the wheel with less traction, meaning your car isn't going to move very much. Remember that the open differential always applies the same torque to both wheels, and the maximum amount of torque the engine can supply to the wheels is limited to the greatest amount of tq that will not make the wheels slip. But, and LSD powered car, the differential senses slip and can apply a varying amount of tq to each wheel, helping turning & acceleration, when traction is not present to one wheel.

For example, if an open diff car was on ice, or a very slippery surface, and one wheel started to slip, the other wheel wouldn't spin because there is no device to apply a different amount of tq (read less) to the other wheel, which would help the car accelerate, although not with the full amount of tq the engine can produce. Remember, more tq is not always better for when accelerating, or launching, sometimes less is more.

This is the easiest way I can explain it, and the inherent advantage of a limited slip vs an open diff car.

[Spa5tik]

Damn, you straight embarrassed that Lotus... no offense but that surprised me, ive heard pretty good things about those lotus'.... none the less... Very Impressive Bro!!

[xlur8ed]

I really don't want to start another LSD war, and would prefer if this topic didn't jack this thread... I don't claim to be the honda hero, or know everything, but something to understand and take as you will would be this info off of http://www.quaifeamerica.com:

"The Quaife Differential powers both drive wheels under nearly all conditions, instead of just one. With an ordinary open differential, standard on most cars, a lot of precious power is wasted during wheelspin under acceleration. This happens because the open differential shifts power to the wheel with less grip (along the path of least resistance). The Quaife, however, does just the opposite. It senses which wheel has the better grip, and biases the power to that wheel. It does this smoothly and constantly, and without ever completely removing power from the other wheel.

In drag-race style, straight-line acceleration runs, this results in a close to ideal 50/50 power split to both drive wheels, resulting in essentially twice the grip of an ordinary differential (they don't call open diffs "peglegs" for nothing)."

So going off of what Quafie claims, a transmission equipped with a LSD will provide "essentially twice the grip of an ordinary differential".... That's all I have to base my opinion on.

[xlur8ed]

The track owner just stopped into the shop, and the density altitude was 4300... I am new to this factor of racing, but I guess it is one of the worst racing temps/environments they have had at the track ever.

I just thought it was hot, I didn't know there was a full out equation to tell how the air was!

[hondatech2000]

this time is more believable with the tires, header, exhuast and intake (race heaer/exhaust). but the other si stock running 14.2 was it not believable.

[Essenar83]

Originally Posted by DC5Gurl

Sorry, you may have SEEN 1.9's out of these tires on a DIFFERENT CAR, but the FG2 is too heavy and has too little torque to pull 1.9s. Unless you do some MASSIVE weight reduction, or add go F/I somehow, it ain't gonna happen.

That thing with the swapped EG's pulling 1.8-1.9s ALL DAY is because they weigh in at ~2000lbs, with such little weight dropping the clutch at 7000 will get it moving off the line a lot more effeciently than your 3000+ lb FWD porker with driver and only 140ish ft lbs of torque.

If you really think you're gonna pull 1.9's in your FG2 with n/a mods, keep dreaming sucker.

Hey you just learned something today.

lol this chick is pretty cool.

Anyway, I think 2 flats is possible, anything less than that will require slicks.

[Ding]

Originally Posted by Essenar83

lol this chick is pretty cool.

Anyway, I think 2 flats is possible, anything less than that will require slicks.

He has slicks.

[Essenar83]

Originally Posted by 90CRXLS

He has slicks.

DR's are different from slicks.

[DC5Gurl]

Originally Posted by xlur8ed

It is obvious that you are out to try and prove something to those on HT. That is fine, but it is getting old. The EG I spoke of was a sedan and not 2000lbs. Besides the point, but please try to be more polite.... you will gain much more respect (I started on HT as a 'know it all' and soon found out how little I knew) by being nice.

I don't want to argue back and forth anymore, as it gets nobody anywhere, but makes everyone feel stupider for contributing to a useless point.

Done. Good luck on your quest for 13s, your times are much more believable than the 14.2 claim with just exhaust from that other dork. And thanks for listing ALL YOUR mods.

[DC5Gurl]

Originally Posted by Essenar83

lol this chick is pretty cool.

Anyway, I think 2 flats is possible, anything less than that will require slicks.

thanks.

You're completely right, I think he can improve his 60ft to maybe a 2.0 or so, but nothing under. Especially not consistent 1.8s-1.9s. But once he does get slicks, his 5500 rev limiter will work even harder against him, he will most likely bog down.

[xlur8ed]

Originally Posted by DC5Gurl

thanks.

You're completely right, I think he can improve his 60ft to maybe a 2.0 or so, but nothing under. Especially not consistent 1.8s-1.9s. But once he does get slicks, his 5500 rev limiter will work even harder against him, he will most likely bog down.

completely agree....hopefully there will be fix for this 5500 issue, and if I would get a nice low 2.0 I would be satisfied for now! I guess I can only get better the more I go out.

[Ding]

Originally Posted by Essenar83

DR's are different from slicks.

My bad. I thought he had slicks. To the OP, get some slicks. Haha. Good time.