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amy · 05-23-2006, 04:43 PM

Picture Updates Pages 3, 9, 12

specific instructions are located here http://www.quartersportsdrag.com

What you need for this swap:

H22 or F22 longblock and its components
H or F series Exhaust manifold (will have to be modified to connect to existing exhaust piping)
B-series transmission
H2b Adapter plate Kit (www.quartersportsdrag.com)
B-series axels
B-series mounts with polyurethane inserts or aftermarket B series mounts
B-series starter
B-series slave cylinder
B-series clutch
B-series ALUMINUM flywheel
4 OEM Honda alignment dowels

NOT REQUIRED but definately something to consider:
-Better cooling system, either an aftermarket aluminum dual core radiator or a del sol VTEC radiator will work
-Aftermarket mounts for a b-series motor
-Using a chipped p28 instead of a prelude's p13; P28 does not look for a knock sensor or egr system which I hear is a major pain in the ass to do up
-Removal of balance shafts (i did not do this but many other H2b'ers have) will require a freeze plug to keep oil from spurting out. They can be found here: http://www.kaizenspeed.com/.
-Alternator relocation kit. My alternator did NOT fit in so I had to get a relocation kit so it would work. http://www.explicitspeedperformance.net offers many different options and has kits for OEM spec or for those who have removed their balance shafts.
-Machining off the Power steering pulley. To create a bit more room, I had the P/S pulley machined off of my crank pulley. I used this machine shop Master Grinding Services Inc.

Just thought I'd post some pics up of how my install went for all who are contemplating this swap

Aluminum Flywheel with the aluminum spacer that is included in the kit.

exedy clutch goes on as if it were just a plain old b series swap

The plate is attached first with 4 countersunk bolts that you need an 8mm hex to tighten. They're on the top and right side of the plate (2 and 2)

The tranny was a bit of a pain in the ass to put on with the 2 dowel pins in the block and 2 in the tranny... This part is definately a two person job. One person held the block and guided the tranny on making sure the bolt for the starter gets lined up while the other used their big strong muscles to lift the tranny up and push it on...

Ah, everyone's favorite part: grindin down the backside of your motor... I was surprised by how far in you actually have to grind, almost right down to the oil pan bolts... Don't forget your gasket sealer afterwards

A shot of the back of the motor with the intermediate shaft and the adapter bracket for it..

I decided to keep the balance shaft assembly in tact but removed the belt and tensioner. The lower timing belt cover was reinstalled with a slight trim on the top. The power steering pulley has to be machined down so it'll fit. (will get pics of machines crank pulley as soon as i get it back)

Where the frame rail had to be bashed in... Doesn't look too bad. This project is good for anyone who needs to get out some pent up aggression

Edit: as of 7/5 had to take the motor back out so we decided to create a little more clearance

and let's not forget my knockin motor

Modified by amy at 10:20 PM 11/3/2007

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vtecspeed1320 · 05-23-2006, 05:31 PM

how did your scam thing end up coming out....looks nice...cant wait till mines done. what trans you sportin

amy · 05-23-2006, 05:36 PM

my bank was able to resolve it with paypal...

I am using a 00 b16 tranny with b16 sir II lsd

vtecspeed1320 · 05-23-2006, 05:51 PM

thats awesome for both things, youll have to stop back and check out my h2b turbo build at the end of the summer.

amy · 05-23-2006, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtecspeed1320

thats awesome for both things, youll have to stop back and check out my h2b turbo build at the end of the summer.

nice

I hope to have some new pics as of Thursday with more progress

2fast4u831 · 05-23-2006, 10:09 PM

looks good

keep the pics coming

thahuhstunna · 05-23-2006, 10:58 PM

can't wait for updates

Gold DA9 · 05-24-2006, 04:04 AM

I've been waiting for these updates for some time. Glad to see it coming along. Cant wait to see numbers and track times. Getting ready to start pieceing together my kit.

What flywheel and clutch setup are you using?

NJcoupe · 05-24-2006, 05:40 AM

wow, looking good!

You should fill/get inserts for the driver side mount so it doesn't move to much, skunked had that problem.

You're keeping powersteering?

DC4_MADMAN · 05-24-2006, 06:08 AM

Looks good, so the block just has to be shaved to clear the halfshaft assembly?

I am also currently trying to slap an H2B assembly together, but it is taking quite longer than I thought it would, you know, budgets and all. Got the trans(JDM B16 with Kazz), Clutch(CC stage 3), and flywheel(Fidanza), its a start I suppose.

Should get an H2B rollcall going to see how many are running the setup, what times they are running etc.

AdamITR · 05-24-2006, 08:17 AM

Looks Great!

ejwan · 05-24-2006, 10:48 AM

good writeup/info with working pictures.

thanks for sharing

amy · 05-24-2006, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gold DA9

I've been waiting for these updates for some time. Glad to see it coming along. Cant wait to see numbers and track times. Getting ready to start pieceing together my kit.

What flywheel and clutch setup are you using?

exedy stage 1 clutch and i'll have to double check on my flywheel, it was a donation from my boyfriend who upgraded

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxcoupe.

wow, looking good!

You should fill/get inserts for the driver side mount so it doesn't move to much, skunked had that problem.

You're keeping powersteering?

Yea i have the inserts, they still have to go in... I'm going to see how it is with them and if it doesn't feel right for me I'll probably go with mounts from Hasport or Hcp

and no Definately not utilizing P/S, my car never came with it from the factory and I'm not about to add it now

EJ1 wilcox · 05-24-2006, 10:53 AM

Looks great!

How much do these H2B kits run?

skunked · 05-24-2006, 01:31 PM

looks great Amy, I'm digg'n the valve cover.

PS-Put the inserts in!!!!

amy · 05-24-2006, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skunked

looks great Amy, I'm digg'n the valve cover.

PS-Put the inserts in!!!!

haha the VC is no longer that color

skunked · 05-24-2006, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amy

haha the VC is no longer that color

damn girls!!!!

SlowCGP_EJ8 · 05-24-2006, 09:15 PM

Definitely looks great!
I've had my long block for ages and am so anxious to get my project rolling..
Too bad Im a broke college kid with no dough, haa.
Cant wait to see some numbers and 1/4 mile times.. Great Work!

PS - How much did you pay for the kit from quartersports?

AllMotorRandy · 05-24-2006, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4door_demon

........Should get an H2B rollcall going to see how many are running the setup, what times they are running etc.

Here is my setup. Almost ready for NHRA in Las Vegas!!! See you guys there!!!

DeuceD · 05-24-2006, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllMotorRandy

Here is my setup. Almost ready for NHRA in Las Vegas!!! See you guys there!!!

do you have a shot of the hood closed? would like to see that.

thahuhstunna · 05-24-2006, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllMotorRandy

Here is my setup. Almost ready for NHRA in Las Vegas!!! See you guys there!!!

nice

specs of the set up, and how did you close the hood, heard this is a problem with H2B's

skunked · 05-25-2006, 07:03 AM

1" spacers guys, 1" spacers......I tell everyone this everyday it seems.

2.2EG has posted pics of this as well.

2fast4u831 · 05-25-2006, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skunked

1" spacers guys, 1" spacers......I tell everyone this everyday it seems.

2.2EG has posted pics of this as well.

it looks more like 1/2" on his car

home depot right Matt?

skunked · 05-25-2006, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2FAST4U831

it looks more like 1/2" on his car

home depot right Matt?

it depends on the type of hood and MAP location, anywhere from 1/2" to 1" spacers.

Home Depot or lowes sells aluminum stand-offs that work perfect.

STEV3-O · 05-25-2006, 10:06 AM

my hood hits the valve cover, timing side

05-23-2006, 05:31 PM	#2
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05-23-2006, 05:36 PM	#3
amy Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,572	Re: (vtecspeed1320) my bank was able to resolve it with paypal... I am using a 00 b16 tranny with b16 sir II lsd

05-23-2006, 05:51 PM	#4
vtecspeed1320 Shooting Star Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Lou, MO, US Posts: 4,421	thats awesome for both things, youll have to stop back and check out my h2b turbo build at the end of the summer. __________________ Evo VIII 2.3L 4094r

05-23-2006, 10:09 PM	#6
2fast4u831 I'm really 2slow 1994 Honda Civic Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: 2 cars, no garage, CA, USA Posts: 7,547	Re: (amy) looks good keep the pics coming __________________ H2B squad member #09 my project Turbogixxer

05-24-2006, 04:04 AM	#8
Gold DA9 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bumblefu<k, PA Posts: 2,692	Re: h2b into Del sol (thahuhstunna) I've been waiting for these updates for some time. Glad to see it coming along. Cant wait to see numbers and track times. Getting ready to start pieceing together my kit. What flywheel and clutch setup are you using? __________________ YC Underground Street and Dyno Tuning York, PA www.ycunderground.com REJECT SQUAD #90

05-24-2006, 05:40 AM	#9
NJcoupe Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: southside, NJ Posts: 6,331	wow, looking good! You should fill/get inserts for the driver side mount so it doesn't move to much, skunked had that problem. You're keeping powersteering?

05-24-2006, 06:08 AM	#10
DC4_MADMAN AKA DEMOLITION_MAN Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,484	Looks good, so the block just has to be shaved to clear the halfshaft assembly? I am also currently trying to slap an H2B assembly together, but it is taking quite longer than I thought it would, you know, budgets and all. Got the trans(JDM B16 with Kazz), Clutch(CC stage 3), and flywheel(Fidanza), its a start I suppose. Should get an H2B rollcall going to see how many are running the setup, what times they are running etc. __________________ Recent vouches- cluelessmale, superdave, hondab20t, Its the kidfolk, Midnight Racer X, motrayEG6, 95 Integra, BoltonGSR, Savedone, strang3help, satanracing, jdmcd7_cali-luv, berb_15, ryc555, LudeSH

05-24-2006, 08:17 AM	#11
AdamITR Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Upstate NY, NY, USA Posts: 2,281	Re: h2b into Del sol (amy) Looks Great!

05-24-2006, 10:48 AM	#12
ejwan Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: LA, CA, USA Posts: 1,136	Re: h2b into Del sol (amy) good writeup/info with working pictures. thanks for sharing __________________ curent ride= 2 X DB7 previous ride - EJ1 sold - DB1 stolen DB Squad Member #188

05-24-2006, 10:53 AM	#14
EJ1 wilcox Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 5,732	Re: h2b into Del sol (ejwan) Looks great! How much do these H2B kits run?

05-24-2006, 01:31 PM	#15
skunked Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NOR CAL Posts: 12,451	Re: h2b into Del sol (EJ1 wilcox) looks great Amy, I'm digg'n the valve cover. PS-Put the inserts in!!!! __________________ 2.2L H2B NA DC2 S/P 12.1@110 http://www.quartersportsdrag.com/ SINISTER RACING

05-24-2006, 09:15 PM	#18
SlowCGP_EJ8 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hiding in, NJ Posts: 970	Re: h2b into Del sol Definitely looks great! I've had my long block for ages and am so anxious to get my project rolling.. Too bad Im a broke college kid with no dough, haa. Cant wait to see some numbers and 1/4 mile times.. Great Work! PS - How much did you pay for the kit from quartersports? __________________ - 1998 CGP EJ8 (The Daily Grind)[EJ8 Squad #075] - 1995 PBGP EJ1 (An Extra Daily Grind) - 1999 EBP EM1 (Project)

05-25-2006, 07:03 AM	#22
skunked Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NOR CAL Posts: 12,451	Re: (thahuhstunna) 1" spacers guys, 1" spacers......I tell everyone this everyday it seems. 2.2EG has posted pics of this as well. __________________ 2.2L H2B NA DC2 S/P 12.1@110 http://www.quartersportsdrag.com/ SINISTER RACING

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