Turbo Kit for R18? (2006 civic dx/lx/ex)

1zach4 · 03-22-2006, 11:26 AM

Has anyone here started to develop, or think about developing a turo kit for the 2006 civic dx/lx/ex motor, the R18?

From what I can tell the only problem with creating a kit for this engine will be manifold design. The exhaust manifold is cast into the head which will require some sort of adapter in order to work correctly.

If someone knows of anyone trying to develop a kit, or someone that would be willing to design one, let me know. There are a ton of members on ************* that are interested in a kit for this engine, and just need some help getting started since all of the manufacturers are interested in the Si @ the moment.

1zach4 · 03-22-2006, 06:19 PM

anyone?

1zach4 · 03-23-2006, 11:18 AM

someone wanna help?

If someone designed a manifold for the R18 they would definitely hit a jackpot because there are a ton of R18 owners who are enthusiasts, but can't do anything about it because the whole market is focused on the Si

1zach4 · 03-23-2006, 11:26 AM

There is the cylinder head with the flange showing if that helps anyone.

Doesn't seem too complicated to make something for that since there is a ton of room in the engine bay once the exhaust manifold/cat are removed from the bay.

I'd do it, but I have no experience fabbing this stuff up, not to mention it's a brand new car and there is no technical support for a turbo setup on this vehicle.

integra3586 · 03-23-2006, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 1zach4

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which side is the exhaust on? thats a crazy lookin head

Boilermaker1 · 03-23-2006, 11:42 AM

you're looking at the exhaust port in that picture. It almost looks like you could bolt a turbo to the head, but my bet is that some sort of an adapter flange is all it would take. My guess is you'll have more trouble with the electronics and fuel delivery than you will machining something so the turbo bolts to the motor.

integra3586 · 03-23-2006, 11:51 AM

it almosts looks like you can bolt the turbo right up to the head

seems pretty easy just need to fab up a turbo flange. looks simple enough

edit: lol i just re read your post, didnt even relize you said you can bolt a turbo right to the head

1zach4 · 03-23-2006, 12:13 PM

well hopefully someone will come up with that adapter plate.

After that adapter plate would you just be able to bolt up any manifold?

all go teg · 03-23-2006, 12:23 PM

i don't think you would need to hook up " any manifold" after you make an adapter plate, all you would have to do is have the turbo hanging right off the head, then attach your down pipe, inner cooler piping, ect. id be interested to see a picture of the engine bay because i have not actually seen on before.

integra3586 · 03-23-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by all go teg

i don't think you would need to hook up " any manifold" after you make an adapter plate, all you would have to do is have the turbo hanging right off the head, then attach your down pipe, inner cooler piping, ect. id be interested to see a picture of the engine bay because i have not actually seen on before.

im interested in a pic also. is the exhaust in the front or the back?

1zach4 · 03-23-2006, 12:35 PM

the exhaust is in the front.

The cat and the exhaust manifold take up a huge amount of room in the front of the engine bay, so once they are gone there is a ton of room for a 3" DP and anything else you could need.

I Have an STD · 03-23-2006, 12:36 PM

wow, the r18 owners are going to have the cheapest turbo manifolds on earth. adapter plate to bolt to the head? SWEET. thos things make decent power too, id love to see one boosted

1zach4 · 03-23-2006, 12:41 PM

well mine would be boosted asap if I could get someone to build a quality manifold for me.

integra3586 · 03-23-2006, 01:20 PM

i might just have to go down to honda and check one of these things out

MidShipCivic · 03-23-2006, 01:24 PM

Omg I hate that head D17 > R18 .

integra3586 · 03-23-2006, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MidShipCivic

Omg I hate that head D17 > R18 .

why cause its different? or u dont understand it? seems pretty cool to me turbo wise

MidShipCivic · 03-23-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by B18B-SC

why cause its different? or u dont understand it? seems pretty cool to me turbo wise

IF it isnt obvious YES cause its different. Thats like having a cast manifold already on the head.

dornon13 · 03-23-2006, 02:08 PM

i agree with midship. the manifold can do alot for performance runner length and positioning can affect spool and power. yes its cool for simplicity but leaves no options as far as runners go....i also think electronics would be the biggest hurdle to turbo them....its just a matter of time

integra3586 · 03-23-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dornon13

i agree with midship. the manifold can do alot for performance runner length and positioning can affect spool and power. yes its cool for simplicity but leaves no options as far as runners go....i also think electronics would be the biggest hurdle to turbo them....its just a matter of time

why would electronics be an issue? is there something im missing here? im not arguing with anyone im just curious of this new engine. what makes this engine so different than say the d17? besides the obvious(head)

I Have an STD · 03-23-2006, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1zach4

well mine would be boosted asap if I could get someone to build a quality manifold for me.

well listen, you dont need a manifold obviously, you need an adapter plate to bolt the thing right to the head. take the measurements and take it to a machine shop, they can make you a head flange. then its just a matter of getting some square tubing and adapting it to a t3/t25/t4 flange.

you dont ALWAYS need someone else to help you, you need to go out and do something yourself. take measurements or take off the manifold and bring it to a machine shop. making you a flange will probably take them no more the 30 mins if they have the manifold in front of them

I Have an STD · 03-23-2006, 02:40 PM

you could even do an easy external wastegate. just have the flange welded to the square tubing.

can u visualize my idea? it would look something like this

dornon13 · 03-23-2006, 02:44 PM

HOW DARE YOU POST AN SSAC PICTURE!!! naw just kidding that is what i was picturing to. when i said electronics i didnt know specifically but i can garauntee the manifold isnt what is holding them back from making a turbo kit for it.

JG-Fabrications · 03-23-2006, 02:50 PM

BMC Race to the rescue

Give Flange Master Sam a call at 281 813 0942 and he can do this no problem,
He will need:
Pictures with measurements
A gasket for the head
-James

The Destroyer · 03-23-2006, 03:13 PM

Well its not a race engine christ the guy is just asking about help to turbo it.

I think it would be a great streetable head. It would be so direct too, I mean you couldnt tune for equal length but it would be rather easy.

Your best bet is to have a buddy that has some fabbing experiance make a flange. Shit you could prob pop the header off and trace the flange design and go to town.

1zach4 · 03-23-2006, 06:44 PM

the main issue besides the head is the car's drive by wire throttle system...The DBW will be the main tuning issue here

03-22-2006, 06:19 PM	#2
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03-23-2006, 11:18 AM	#3
1zach4 Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Acworth, Ga, usa Posts: 1,105	Re: Turbo Kit for R18? (1zach4) someone wanna help? If someone designed a manifold for the R18 they would definitely hit a jackpot because there are a ton of R18 owners who are enthusiasts, but can't do anything about it because the whole market is focused on the Si __________________ 1996 Acura Integra GS-R SOLD 1992 Honda Civic CX SOLD 1999 Honda Civic EX SOLD 2006 Honda Civic EX SOLD 1999 Acura Integra LS

03-23-2006, 11:26 AM	#4
1zach4 Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Acworth, Ga, usa Posts: 1,105	Re: Turbo Kit for R18? (1zach4) There is the cylinder head with the flange showing if that helps anyone. Doesn't seem too complicated to make something for that since there is a ton of room in the engine bay once the exhaust manifold/cat are removed from the bay. I'd do it, but I have no experience fabbing this stuff up, not to mention it's a brand new car and there is no technical support for a turbo setup on this vehicle. __________________ 1996 Acura Integra GS-R SOLD 1992 Honda Civic CX SOLD 1999 Honda Civic EX SOLD 2006 Honda Civic EX SOLD 1999 Acura Integra LS

03-23-2006, 11:42 AM	#6
Boilermaker1 Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Washington, DC, USA Posts: 1,751	you're looking at the exhaust port in that picture. It almost looks like you could bolt a turbo to the head, but my bet is that some sort of an adapter flange is all it would take. My guess is you'll have more trouble with the electronics and fuel delivery than you will machining something so the turbo bolts to the motor. __________________ 2002 Civic - POS/Toy 237 HP / 187 TQ @12 PSI 2008 Audi A3 2.0T - Daily Beater

03-23-2006, 11:51 AM	#7
integra3586 Honda-Tech Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: usa Posts: 1,870	Re: (Boilermaker1) it almosts looks like you can bolt the turbo right up to the head seems pretty easy just need to fab up a turbo flange. looks simple enough edit: lol i just re read your post, didnt even relize you said you can bolt a turbo right to the head __________________ Duramax LBZ

03-23-2006, 12:13 PM	#8
1zach4 Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Acworth, Ga, usa Posts: 1,105	Re: (B18B-SC) well hopefully someone will come up with that adapter plate. After that adapter plate would you just be able to bolt up any manifold? __________________ 1996 Acura Integra GS-R SOLD 1992 Honda Civic CX SOLD 1999 Honda Civic EX SOLD 2006 Honda Civic EX SOLD 1999 Acura Integra LS

03-23-2006, 12:23 PM	#9
all go teg Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ellicott city, md, USA Posts: 386	Re: (1zach4) i don't think you would need to hook up " any manifold" after you make an adapter plate, all you would have to do is have the turbo hanging right off the head, then attach your down pipe, inner cooler piping, ect. id be interested to see a picture of the engine bay because i have not actually seen on before. __________________ 231hp, 205ft/lbs at 8.5 psi tuned by 93turbo16 http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif new 2.0 ls/vtec 356 hp, 267ft/lbs at 16psi for sale Vibrant Muffler\| AutoMeter boost gauge http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1940238

03-23-2006, 12:35 PM	#11
1zach4 Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Acworth, Ga, usa Posts: 1,105	Re: (B18B-SC) the exhaust is in the front. The cat and the exhaust manifold take up a huge amount of room in the front of the engine bay, so once they are gone there is a ton of room for a 3" DP and anything else you could need. __________________ 1996 Acura Integra GS-R SOLD 1992 Honda Civic CX SOLD 1999 Honda Civic EX SOLD 2006 Honda Civic EX SOLD 1999 Acura Integra LS

03-23-2006, 12:36 PM	#12
I Have an STD wrenchin' Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Full of shit in NY, USA Posts: 3,640	Re: (B18B-SC) wow, the r18 owners are going to have the cheapest turbo manifolds on earth. adapter plate to bolt to the head? SWEET. thos things make decent power too, id love to see one boosted __________________ 96 Frost White GSR Sedan- greddy kit on 10 psi tuned on crome-current 95 Cypress Green Accord EX wagon- cruisin'

03-23-2006, 12:41 PM	#13
1zach4 Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Acworth, Ga, usa Posts: 1,105	Re: (I Have an STD) well mine would be boosted asap if I could get someone to build a quality manifold for me. __________________ 1996 Acura Integra GS-R SOLD 1992 Honda Civic CX SOLD 1999 Honda Civic EX SOLD 2006 Honda Civic EX SOLD 1999 Acura Integra LS

03-23-2006, 01:20 PM	#14
integra3586 Honda-Tech Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: usa Posts: 1,870	Re: (1zach4) i might just have to go down to honda and check one of these things out __________________ Duramax LBZ

03-23-2006, 01:24 PM	#15
MidShipCivic Honda-Tech Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Altamonte Springs/Orlando, Florida, USA Posts: 4,478	Omg I hate that head D17 > R18 . __________________ MSEngineering unconventional versatility.

03-23-2006, 02:08 PM	#18
dornon13 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 2,848	Re: (MidShipCivic) i agree with midship. the manifold can do alot for performance runner length and positioning can affect spool and power. yes its cool for simplicity but leaves no options as far as runners go....i also think electronics would be the biggest hurdle to turbo them....its just a matter of time __________________ Selling some EG and DC parts check it out Dornon Photography

03-23-2006, 02:40 PM	#21
I Have an STD wrenchin' Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Full of shit in NY, USA Posts: 3,640	Re: (I Have an STD) you could even do an easy external wastegate. just have the flange welded to the square tubing. can u visualize my idea? it would look something like this __________________ 96 Frost White GSR Sedan- greddy kit on 10 psi tuned on crome-current 95 Cypress Green Accord EX wagon- cruisin'

03-23-2006, 02:44 PM	#22
dornon13 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 2,848	Re: (I Have an STD) HOW DARE YOU POST AN SSAC PICTURE!!! naw just kidding that is what i was picturing to. when i said electronics i didnt know specifically but i can garauntee the manifold isnt what is holding them back from making a turbo kit for it. __________________ Selling some EG and DC parts check it out Dornon Photography

03-23-2006, 02:50 PM	#23
JG-Fabrications Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, Texas, USA Posts: 1,852	Re: (I Have an STD) BMC Race to the rescue Give Flange Master Sam a call at 281 813 0942 and he can do this no problem, He will need: Pictures with measurements A gasket for the head -James

03-23-2006, 03:13 PM	#24
The Destroyer Honda-Tech Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 8,419	Re: (JG-Fabrications) Well its not a race engine christ the guy is just asking about help to turbo it. I think it would be a great streetable head. It would be so direct too, I mean you couldnt tune for equal length but it would be rather easy. Your best bet is to have a buddy that has some fabbing experiance make a flange. Shit you could prob pop the header off and trace the flange design and go to town. __________________ SM EG8

03-23-2006, 06:44 PM	#25
1zach4 Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Acworth, Ga, usa Posts: 1,105	Re: (Vtaaak y0) the main issue besides the head is the car's drive by wire throttle system...The DBW will be the main tuning issue here __________________ 1996 Acura Integra GS-R SOLD 1992 Honda Civic CX SOLD 1999 Honda Civic EX SOLD 2006 Honda Civic EX SOLD 1999 Acura Integra LS

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