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SOHC_MShue · 03-10-2006, 01:38 PM

Has anyone used this as a reliable source of detecting knock? I'm about to make myself some using a copper tube and some fuel line and hopefully I can pretty much replace having to pull plugs all the time which gets old.

If any of you have any experience with using a Det can setup like this let me know because from what I hear it is much more accurate than using an electronic device for detecting knock.

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splitime · 03-10-2006, 02:00 PM

Sounds like you are making something like the soupcan and string phone?

I've never heard of anything called a "Det (detonation right?) Can"

SOHC_MShue · 03-10-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by splitime

Sounds like you are making something like the soupcan and string phone?

I've never heard of anything called a "Det (detonation right?) Can"

yup its called Det can. I was searching around on the EFI101 forum and there were a number of posts where people spoke of them and said how much better they work for them than the electronic listening devices. I've almost got mine built now. I cant wait

Oyvind Ryeng · 03-10-2006, 05:00 PM

Some tuners here in Scandinavia use this method for detecting knock; it seems to be a both widespread and accurate way of detecting knock, seeing as how a human knows what knock sounds like, where the knock sensor goes "OMG there is some kind of noise!".

tallyturbo · 03-10-2006, 05:23 PM

how does this work? im curious

JDMs1eeper · 03-10-2006, 05:39 PM

helped him build one today. hope it works out good

We can use it when tunning the LS

john breezy · 03-10-2006, 05:47 PM

wtf...thats like hooking up a vacum line to you mouth and saying... "im gonna go with 9psi or boost that pass"

JDMs1eeper · 03-10-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by john breezy

wtf...thats like hooking up a vacum line to you mouth and saying... "im gonna go with 9psi or boost that pass"

what on earth are you talking about????

Give us a CLEAR write up on how to read plugs for knock, correctly.

enginetiks · 03-10-2006, 06:19 PM

Buy a chassis ear...

SOHC_MShue · 03-10-2006, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john breezy

wtf...thats like hooking up a vacum line to you mouth and saying... "im gonna go with 9psi or boost that pass"

Nice way to make an ass of yourself

. If you dont believe it works then go on EFI101.com forums and type a search for Det Cans.

BTW guys I just got everything hooked up minus the actual earphones and the thing seems to work great. I get nice clear engine noise on the other end of 9ft of tubing.

SOHC_MShue · 03-10-2006, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by enginetiks

Buy a chassis ear...

This has to be a budget type deal

0Jon at Titan · 03-10-2006, 07:58 PM

Buddy of mines used a Doctor's stethoscope
but interesting Idea nonetheless

DET can clever name lol

hondaguyef · 03-10-2006, 08:35 PM

I'm interested. SOHC_MSHUE, how does this work? Please explain. Thanks.

Phil

Blaze45 · 03-10-2006, 08:41 PM

Link to thread please.... Cause Im to lazy to look for it right now... haha

SOHC_MShue · 03-10-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jnasty1845

Buddy of mines used a Doctor's stethoscope
but interesting Idea nonetheless

DET can clever name lol

haha yea man i was like wtf when i first saw that today.

SOHC_MShue · 03-10-2006, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hondaguyef

I'm interested. SOHC_MSHUE, how does this work? Please explain. Thanks.

Phil

Alright basically you need to get about a 3/8" brass pipe about a few inches long. You need to crush one end completely flat so there is a seal and no sound can get out. Then you construct some way to attach a real long hose line to it(it needs to be a very thick rubber line like fuel line or else it wont work). Then you T that line into 2 seperate lines and run them to a pair of ear protectors(the things that look like head phones). You cut a hole in each side and shove the tubes in there and glue them in if you have to. The Tubes must be air tight. Then you just drill a hole in the brass pipe and mount it somewhere on your block. I chose to mount mine on the front of the block near cylinders 3 and 4.

SOHC_MShue · 03-10-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Blaze45

Link to thread please.... Cause Im to lazy to look for it right now... haha

http://www.efi101.com/forum/vi...a118d here is a link to the efi101 tuning tips forum. The first few threads are all talking about detonation detection and det cans are mentioned a few times. I got one of the guys on there to send me an email detailing it and i also searched the web and found a couple writeups as well.

SOHC_MShue · 03-11-2006, 11:57 PM

Here are some pics where it attaches to the block guys

JDMs1eeper · 03-12-2006, 12:12 AM

I think we did a good job

SOHC_MShue · 03-12-2006, 12:22 AM

fo sho

komat · 03-12-2006, 12:26 AM

what about silent detonation?

SOHC_MShue · 03-12-2006, 01:01 AM

what silent detonation? If its knocking there is going to be noise. That is what this is for is picking up that "silent" detonation that you cannot usually hear without some kind of major amplification.

SOHC_MShue · 03-12-2006, 08:55 AM

bump it up

boosted94cx · 03-12-2006, 10:59 AM

pm J.Davis and ask him about his audibale knock detector idea....it's a ****TON better than this mess

DaveF · 03-12-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by boosted94cx

pm J.Davis and ask him about his audibale knock detector idea....it's a ****TON better than this mess

since you seem to bee on his nuts perhaps you can get him to chime in

03-10-2006, 02:00 PM	#2
splitime Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: function over form, usa Posts: 5,638	Re: Det Cans (SOHC_MShue) Sounds like you are making something like the soupcan and string phone? I've never heard of anything called a "Det (detonation right?) Can" __________________ "Or maybe it was just bling and he had a little tiny dick and needed a way to impress the bitches." - CRX Lee "Street Racing is like kissing your sister.... it just doesn't make any sense."

03-10-2006, 05:00 PM	#4
Oyvind Ryeng Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 428	Re: Det Cans (SOHC_MShue) Some tuners here in Scandinavia use this method for detecting knock; it seems to be a both widespread and accurate way of detecting knock, seeing as how a human knows what knock sounds like, where the knock sensor goes "OMG there is some kind of noise!".

03-10-2006, 05:39 PM	#6
JDMs1eeper Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: tha East Coast Posts: 5,947	Re: Det Cans (tallyturbo) helped him build one today. hope it works out good We can use it when tunning the LS __________________ 95 Civic EX - LS-T , 12.7@115 95 Civic VX - na CRVtec , 13.2@105.8 S-FAB Top Quality Manifold's Since '05 www.Myspace.com/S_FAB

03-10-2006, 05:47 PM	#7
john breezy Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: pistol wavin west haven, ct Posts: 306	Re: Det Cans (JDMs1eeper) wtf...thats like hooking up a vacum line to you mouth and saying... "im gonna go with 9psi or boost that pass" __________________ "Hulk Hogan doesn't need sleeves...why should my motor?" _98 ek hatch....hot shit new shit DD _56 vw bug...deep dish boosted project

03-10-2006, 06:19 PM	#9
enginetiks Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bay Area, ca Posts: 579	Re: Det Cans (JDMs1eeper) Buy a chassis ear... __________________ ENGtuning.com for professional dyno tuning service in NorCal check out our blog at engtuning.com/blog

03-10-2006, 07:58 PM	#12
0Jon at Titan Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Orlando, FL, 32824 Posts: 487	Buddy of mines used a Doctor's stethoscope but interesting Idea nonetheless DET can clever name lol

03-10-2006, 08:35 PM	#13
hondaguyef Member 1992 Honda Civic Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bury St. Edmunds, United Kingdom Posts: 8,121	Re: (jnasty1845) I'm interested. SOHC_MSHUE, how does this work? Please explain. Thanks. Phil __________________ AnimalPak.com 92' Si- 11.75 @ 121.5

03-10-2006, 08:41 PM	#14
Blaze45 Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Rexburg/Meridian ID Posts: 3,584	Re: (hondaguyef) Link to thread please.... Cause Im to lazy to look for it right now... haha

03-11-2006, 11:57 PM	#18
SOHC_MShue Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Richmond, Va, usa Posts: 11,375	Re: (SOHC_MShue) Here are some pics where it attaches to the block guys __________________ Neptune Dealer www.adrenalineautoworks.com

03-12-2006, 12:12 AM	#19
JDMs1eeper Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: tha East Coast Posts: 5,947	Re: (SOHC_MShue) I think we did a good job __________________ 95 Civic EX - LS-T , 12.7@115 95 Civic VX - na CRVtec , 13.2@105.8 S-FAB Top Quality Manifold's Since '05 www.Myspace.com/S_FAB

03-12-2006, 12:22 AM	#20
SOHC_MShue Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Richmond, Va, usa Posts: 11,375	Re: (JDMs1eeper) fo sho __________________ Neptune Dealer www.adrenalineautoworks.com

03-12-2006, 12:26 AM	#21
komat Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: morgantown, wv, usa Posts: 4,235	Re: (SOHC_MShue) what about silent detonation? __________________ Fully Built 1.92L LSVtec w/ SC61 - 419hp/312tq Semi Built 1.8L LSVtec 219hp/154tq - all motor

03-12-2006, 01:01 AM	#22
SOHC_MShue Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Richmond, Va, usa Posts: 11,375	Re: (komat) what silent detonation? If its knocking there is going to be noise. That is what this is for is picking up that "silent" detonation that you cannot usually hear without some kind of major amplification. __________________ Neptune Dealer www.adrenalineautoworks.com

03-12-2006, 08:55 AM	#23
SOHC_MShue Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Richmond, Va, usa Posts: 11,375	Re: (SOHC_MShue) bump it up __________________ Neptune Dealer www.adrenalineautoworks.com

03-12-2006, 10:59 AM	#24
boosted94cx * B A N N E D * Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,318	pm J.Davis and ask him about his audibale knock detector idea....it's a ****TON better than this mess

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