240 whp LSV build on Pump Gas Possible?

[kidd_drastic]

Hello here is the setup i'm going to build. I really want it to be able to be daily driven on 91 pump gas. b18a1 sleeved GE 85mm bore wiseco 12.5cp pistons eagle rods ls micropolished crank b16 milled head fully port and polished supertech valve train mutil angle valve job blox intake manifold skunk2 70mm throttle body skunk2 cam gears skunk2 pro 1s RC 440cc injectors walhbro 255 fuel pump itr oil and water pump tuned w/ hondata s200 p28 smsp, hytech or rmf header Modified by kidd_drastic at 1:17 PM 1/25/2006 Modified by kidd_drastic at 5:58 PM 1/26/2006 Modified by kidd_drastic at 5:59 PM 1/26/2006 Modified by kidd_drastic at 6:32 PM 1/27/2006

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[S@nt0s]

Originally Posted by kidd_drastic

Hello here is the setup i'm going to build. Any suggestions and possible to be able to run it on pump gas?

b18a1 sleeved GE 85mm bore
wiseco 11.8cp pistons
eagle rods
ls micropolished crank
b16 milled head fully port and polished
supertech valve train
blox intake manifold
skunk2 70mm throttle body
skunk2 cam gears
skunk2 pro 1s or 2's haven't decided
smsp, hytech or rmf header

set up is capable of it but its the lil things that will put it where it needs to be... certain ways in teh P&P, P&P of the IM... timing... TUNING is what will put it over the top! good luck

[98vtec]

tuning is HUGE

[revolt_allmotor]

use the pro1s.

I would have used a little more compression but I'm weird that way.

who did the P&P?

if you have a good head and the motor is put together right you may have 240whp potential, alot depends on tuning as others have said....

[kidd_drastic]

also will be running hondata s200. and hopefully will be tuned at churchs.

[kidd_drastic]

how much compression do you think is possible on pump gas daily driven?

[WhoDoYouThink]

12.5:1 with good tuning.

[revolt_allmotor]

Originally Posted by 2000turbogsr

12.5:1 with good tuning.

agreed.

Originally Posted by kidd_drastic

also will be running hondata s200. and hopefully will be tuned at churchs.

so are you saying that you want to make 240 at church's? that is a little easier than 240 on a dynojet. church's dynapack reads significantly higher than most socal dynojets....

[kidd_drastic]

i'm trying to be around 12.5. If my pistons compesssion were to be 12.1. would a milled head bump the compression up a bit. Also WHAT SIZED INJECTORS TO USE? i'm looking at 370cc w/ a walhbro 255 fuel pump.

[revolt_allmotor]

Originally Posted by kidd_drastic

i'm trying to be around 12.5. If my pistons compesssion were to be 12.1. would a milled head bump the compression up a bit. Also WHAT SIZED INJECTORS TO USE? i'm looking at 370cc w/ a walhbro 255 fuel pump.

try using the C-speed compression calculator at http://www.c-speedracing.com

just take a little out of the box where it says "headgasket thickness" to show what you will get from milling the head....

[kidd_drastic]

how do u know the dome size on a 12.1 comprssion piston?

[revolt_allmotor]

Originally Posted by kidd_drastic

how do u know the dome size on a 12.1 comprssion piston?

well when the piston manufacturer or retailer tells you it's a 12:1 compression piston, ask them "is that with a GSR head or B16 head, and on what block/crank". or just ask for the dome volume

the compression ratio they tell you is just an estimate, if you look at the actual piston spec sheet it doesn't say a compression ratio it says a dome volume. that is because even with the same piston, the compression ratio will change if you use a different head, or a different crank (LS vs GSR/ITR stroke)....

[kidd_drastic]

exactly thats what i was thinking also. do you see anything else i would need? what size injectors or anything else make my build stronger and reliable.

[revolt_allmotor]

I am bad with injector sizes, I'm sure someone else will chime in and let you know what you need.

Make sure the bottom end is assembled by a reputable builder and that you have the rotating assembly balanced.....

[WhoDoYouThink]

I would think the 370 would be good enough, but to be on the safe side with 12.5:1 I would go one step higher and just get 440's.

[kidd_drastic]

anything else i could use for my build that would benefit it

[kidd_drastic]

w/ 12.5-1 comprssion skunk2 pro1's would benefit mroe than pro 2's?

[S@nt0s]

Originally Posted by kidd_drastic

w/ 12.5-1 comprssion skunk2 pro1's would benefit mroe than pro 2's?

po 1's..pro 2's u need to come CORRECTTT

[revolt_allmotor]

yeah the pro2s are a really big cam, the pro1s would be better for a 12.5:1 motor...

[Tbone]

We hit 238 whp on my buddies motor this week.

skunk pro-1
11.1 2cc wiseco pistons
.006 piston to deck
.008 milled gsr head
Ported head
smsp header
85x89
68mm t-body
Jg Ed intake mani
Tbones magic hondasport intake tube.(lol)
Crome pro

[iwantvtech]

440 injectors should work just fine you might be running alittle rich though

[DC2 Mang]

Originally Posted by SnoFlake

TUNING is what will put it over the top!

[kidd_drastic]

[sheepey]

im pretty sure i will hit 240whp on hookups dyno.....on 91 octane.

[kidd_drastic]

Originally Posted by sheepey

im pretty sure i will hit 240whp on hookups dyno.....on 91 octane.

u will.. what about me?