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JK_Motorsports · 08-07-2006, 01:20 PM

My ZC should be up soon

93 Si Hatch
Devcon Filled Block
Eagle Rods
SRP 9:1 pistons
Delta Re-Grind Cams
JG Cam Gears
T3/T04B
Top Mount (made by me)
Sheet Metal Intake (made by me)
RPM 68mm TB
Percision 660cc Injectors
CromePro
TullosTech EBC
yada yada

Shooting for 350whp at 22psi
Motors is in, just needs plumbing andwiring and a break-in.

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LurkerS8 · 08-07-2006, 09:04 PM

New numbers on 16lbs. This was done on 93 pump gas, stock head, stock internals. 300whp and 238wtq on a completely stock dohc zc with OEM 86-87 d16a1 internals.

liam821 · 08-07-2006, 10:22 PM

Those are awesome numbers LurkerS8!!

My car is almost back together...here is some sneak peaks..

goals? over 500whp at high boost!

zc powa

liam

LurkerS8 · 08-07-2006, 10:43 PM

Damn Liam821! I can't wait to see the new graph on that sick setup. We have yet to put my built block together

Should be done by winter time and hoping for about 350+ on 18lbs-20lbs on pump gas. Should be good for low 11's to high 10's in my little crx.

Autoworks · 08-08-2006, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LurkerS8

Damn Liam821! I can't wait to see the new graph on that sick setup. We have yet to put my built block together

Should be done by winter time and hoping for about 350+ on 18lbs-20lbs on pump gas. Should be good for low 11's to high 10's in my little crx.

same here. I'm shooting for $325-350wheel.

I'm still debating on which pistons to run. HKS gasket, Rods and ARP's are here already.
What pistons are you running Lurker and Liam?

Bense · 08-08-2006, 05:48 AM

I <3 d-series and zc-series

liam821 · 08-08-2006, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autoworks

same here. I'm shooting for $325-350wheel.

I'm still debating on which pistons to run. HKS gasket, Rods and ARP's are here already.
What pistons are you running Lurker and Liam?

I run race engineering spec Wiseco pistons. They are 9:1 compression made for a dohc zc. Dont run z6/y8 pistons, they arnt really made for our motors.

If i was to do it again, i would ask Endyn for some 9.5:1 - 10:1 turbo rollerwave dohc ZC pistons.

liam

Autoworks · 08-08-2006, 11:15 AM

my setup before the rebuild...

Autoworks · 08-08-2006, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liam821

I run race engineering spec Wiseco pistons. They are 9:1 compression made for a dohc zc. Dont run z6/y8 pistons, they arnt really made for our motors.

If i was to do it again, i would ask Endyn for some 9.5:1 - 10:1 turbo rollerwave dohc ZC pistons.

liam

You wouldn't run a Z6 piston even if you got the CR you wanted?

liam821 · 08-08-2006, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autoworks

You wouldn't run a Z6 piston even if you got the CR you wanted?

Well a 9:1 z6 pistons is like 7.8:1 if you put it in a ZC. So you need to run like a 11:1 z6 pistons to get a compression thats usable. The problem with that is, a 11:1 piston isnt designed for boost, its most likely an all motor piston. All motor pistons are normally lighter, higher ring lands, and have other things which make them different then turbo pistons. Just not as strong.

liam

Autoworks · 08-08-2006, 11:35 AM

Yeah, the highest I found for the Z6 that wasn't just an N/A was the 10.5:1. I also spoke to Endyne about the rollerwaves as well that are.5 over.

*Boostwerks* · 08-08-2006, 01:54 PM

My old setup from 03, which blew because of the damn fiber HG's. Grrr.

Autoworks · 08-08-2006, 02:45 PM

liam821 · 08-08-2006, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryson

My old setup from 03, which blew because of the damn fiber HG's. Grrr.

It blew in like 40 miles didnt it? that was saadd...i never got to ride in that car.

liam

LurkerS8 · 08-08-2006, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autoworks

same here. I'm shooting for $325-350wheel.

I'm still debating on which pistons to run. HKS gasket, Rods and ARP's are here already.
What pistons are you running Lurker and Liam?

Right now im on the stock 86-87 d16a1 piston and rods. On the built block im going with supertech d16z6 10:5:1 compression pistons and golden eagle rods. I didn't want to wait for wiesco to make me a set, plus I love supertech's quality.

konio · 08-09-2006, 12:59 AM

Hi, I have built ZC to. CP pistons, Eagle rods, ARP studs, OEM head gasket. It worked fot one week in 250HP and head gasket blow of. Did't You have that problem? What head gasket do You use? Do You have block guart or darton sleeves?

Autoworks · 08-09-2006, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by konio

Hi, I have built ZC to. CP pistons, Eagle rods, ARP studs, OEM head gasket. It worked fot one week in 250HP and head gasket blow of. Did't You have that problem? What head gasket do You use? Do You have block guart or darton sleeves?

Use the HKS beaded head gasket

JK_Motorsports · 08-09-2006, 06:06 AM

I'm giving the OEM HG a try, if she blows, I'll step up.

LurkerS8 · 08-09-2006, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JK_Motorsports

I'm giving the OEM HG a try, if she blows, I'll step up.

Im on the OEM right now making 300whp but I have sprayed it with copper gasket sealer. The OEM is made of paper and will give out easy under high boost. If your built just go with the HKS gasket and save urself some time and money. Only reason im not running the HKS right now is cuz I didn't want to spend anymore money on the stock motor.

konio · 08-09-2006, 09:24 AM

I use CP pistons from D16A6 cr11 and they are ok, much stronger than stock. With HKS head gaskek i would have cr 10, isn't it to much? with oem 9.7. A lot of people said that oem gasket will hold if its tune right, is it true?

*Boostwerks* · 08-09-2006, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liam821

It blew in like 40 miles didnt it? that was saadd...i never got to ride in that car.

liam

Even less than that. I don't think I got more than 30 miles out of it before it blew. Then it spun a bearing cause of all the shit that fell into the oil passage.

I HATE fiber gaskets.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JK_Motorsports

I'm giving the OEM HG a try, if she blows, I'll step up.

I hope it works out for ya, but I would definetly look into an all metal if you can afford it.

Autoworks · 08-10-2006, 04:32 AM

OEM is lower than 9.7 stock

quis23 · 08-10-2006, 04:54 AM

where you are guys getting the HKS HG's from?
I've been running the stock gasket for a couple years @ 10 psi (tdo4) with zero problems *knocks on wood*

Autoworks · 08-10-2006, 05:24 AM

I actually just bought one from NOPI (of all places). Overboost.com also lists them.

konio · 08-10-2006, 12:14 PM

I know that oem CR in ZC is 9.5 but head was milled about 0.3mm and CP pistos have a litte diferent volume so now i have about 9.7. Maybe i buy HKS, cr 10 is still ok for turbo.

08-07-2006, 09:04 PM	#52
LurkerS8 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston, Tx, U.S.A Posts: 225	Re: ZC-T 1.6L DOHC Setups OBD-0/1 Specs/Dyno #'s (JK_Motorsports) New numbers on 16lbs. This was done on 93 pump gas, stock head, stock internals. 300whp and 238wtq on a completely stock dohc zc with OEM 86-87 d16a1 internals.

08-07-2006, 10:22 PM	#53
liam821 Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,445	Re: ZC-T 1.6L DOHC Setups OBD-0/1 Specs/Dyno #'s (LurkerS8) Those are awesome numbers LurkerS8!! My car is almost back together...here is some sneak peaks.. goals? over 500whp at high boost! zc powa liam __________________ 93 civic track hatch

08-07-2006, 10:43 PM	#54
LurkerS8 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston, Tx, U.S.A Posts: 225	Re: ZC-T 1.6L DOHC Setups OBD-0/1 Specs/Dyno #'s (liam821) Damn Liam821! I can't wait to see the new graph on that sick setup. We have yet to put my built block together Should be done by winter time and hoping for about 350+ on 18lbs-20lbs on pump gas. Should be good for low 11's to high 10's in my little crx.

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08-08-2006, 11:15 AM	#58
Autoworks Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: GO AUTOWORKS DOT COM Posts: 9,879	Re: ZC-T 1.6L DOHC Setups OBD-0/1 Specs/Dyno #'s (liam821) my setup before the rebuild... __________________ http://www.GO-AUTOWORKS.com 88' Civic HB D16 10.99 @131MPH 09'-2010 Import Face-Off Race Sponsors...Keep the Sport alive, Come Race with US!!

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Autoworks Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: GO AUTOWORKS DOT COM Posts: 9,879	Re: ZC-T 1.6L DOHC Setups OBD-0/1 Specs/Dyno #'s (liam821) Yeah, the highest I found for the Z6 that wasn't just an N/A was the 10.5:1. I also spoke to Endyne about the rollerwaves as well that are.5 over. __________________ http://www.GO-AUTOWORKS.com 88' Civic HB D16 10.99 @131MPH 09'-2010 Import Face-Off Race Sponsors...Keep the Sport alive, Come Race with US!!

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konio Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Parczew, Poland Posts: 21	Re: ZC-T 1.6L DOHC Setups OBD-0/1 Specs/Dyno #'s (JK_Motorsports) I use CP pistons from D16A6 cr11 and they are ok, much stronger than stock. With HKS head gaskek i would have cr 10, isn't it to much? with oem 9.7. A lot of people said that oem gasket will hold if its tune right, is it true?

08-10-2006, 04:32 AM	#72
Autoworks Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: GO AUTOWORKS DOT COM Posts: 9,879	Re: ZC-T 1.6L DOHC Setups OBD-0/1 Specs/Dyno #'s (konio) OEM is lower than 9.7 stock __________________ http://www.GO-AUTOWORKS.com 88' Civic HB D16 10.99 @131MPH 09'-2010 Import Face-Off Race Sponsors...Keep the Sport alive, Come Race with US!!

08-10-2006, 04:54 AM	#73
quis23 Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NoVA, US of A Posts: 1,511	Re: ZC-T 1.6L DOHC Setups OBD-0/1 Specs/Dyno #'s (Autoworks) where you are guys getting the HKS HG's from? I've been running the stock gasket for a couple years @ 10 psi (tdo4) with zero problems knocks on wood __________________ check out- iamfj.com bryan-collins.com

08-10-2006, 05:24 AM	#74
Autoworks Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: GO AUTOWORKS DOT COM Posts: 9,879	Re: ZC-T 1.6L DOHC Setups OBD-0/1 Specs/Dyno #'s (quis23) I actually just bought one from NOPI (of all places). Overboost.com also lists them. __________________ http://www.GO-AUTOWORKS.com 88' Civic HB D16 10.99 @131MPH 09'-2010 Import Face-Off Race Sponsors...Keep the Sport alive, Come Race with US!!

08-10-2006, 12:14 PM	#75
konio Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Parczew, Poland Posts: 21	Re: ZC-T 1.6L DOHC Setups OBD-0/1 Specs/Dyno #'s (Autoworks) I know that oem CR in ZC is 9.5 but head was milled about 0.3mm and CP pistos have a litte diferent volume so now i have about 9.7. Maybe i buy HKS, cr 10 is still ok for turbo.

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