All Motor LS, taking wagers

[projectTeG]

Originally Posted by VtecKiDD motor runs great, no smoke, good compression, just waiting for my tuner to get here. shes all broken in. It has a stock SOHC ecu in it now, until my chipped ecu gets here tonight, made 146whp at 5500rpms power was still climbing, i might hit 160whp afterall. this is all untuned, i just broke it in on the dyno , made sure it wasnt running to lean befoer i take it out on the street.

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[Slimer]

nice...can't wait for tuned numbers

[hybrid_vtec]

Originally Posted by TheHooded_Mike

I don't think I've seen an LS setup with a nice header like that yet. I think that's where a lot of people skimp and exactly where your setup will shine.

True. I am only using a JDM ITR 4-1. Im sure with a better exhaust manifold, I could see more power. Maybe in the future when I have more money. I may even build my own.

[boosted k20]

the manifold will definitly give u power. i was using a shity 4-1 TSUDO header with like a 2" collector mated to a 2.5" exhaust piping. the bottom 2 runners were crushed as well. my car coulda made over 150whp w/ a better header.

[VtecKiDD]

2nd pull made 142whp. still working with it, ill have the dyno sheet posted in about an hour

[projectTeG]

Originally Posted by VtecKiDD

2nd pull made 142whp. still working with it, ill have the dyno sheet posted in about an hour

dang it peaked higher at 5500 with the soch ecu...lol

[VtecKiDD]

now its 149whp

[b19coupe]

Originally Posted by VtecKiDD

Now its 149whp

Only 3.7 more to go

Originally Posted by b19coupe

152.7

[VtecKiDD]

LOL!

[VNTEC]

Time to help out the honda community, i keep my mouth shut too much lol

Heres a video of my LS block. PR3 Pistons, single layer headgasket (only middle layer) Fully ported head with JG valve springs and Crower 404 cams, the idle is not bad at all. Tuned only with a SAFC

http://www.twin2turbo.com/uplo...4.WMV

[VtecKiDD]

what did you make?

[ALLMOTA92EG]

Originally Posted by VNTEC

Time to help out the honda community, i keep my mouth shut too much lol

Heres a video of my LS block. PR3 Pistons, single layer headgasket (only middle layer) Fully ported head with JG valve springs and Crower 404 cams, the idle is not bad at all. Tuned only with a SAFC

http://www.twin2turbo.com/uplo...4.WMV

Got any vids of you WOT?

[VtecKiDD]

Here it is.

For reference, i posted a STOCK GSR motor with a JDM dc 4-1 vs ALL MOTOR LS

Blue is the LS red is the GSR


As you can see it made pretty good numbers. we were conservative cause this motor only has 60 miles on it, and it had 89octane in it from before we did his swap

NO cam gear tuning, and little to none on ingition tuning.

i feel 160whp is well within reach once the motor gets some more miles on it, and once he gets some cam gears.

[b19coupe]

160 is probably "well within reach".

[hybrid_vtec]

Originally Posted by Jdmcivichb!

Got any vids of you WOT?

Here is one of mine.

http://videos.streetfire.net/P...FFFBF

Originally Posted by VtecKiDD

Here it is.

As you can see it made pretty good numbers. we were conservative cause this motor only has 60 miles on it, and it had 89octane in it from before we did his swap

NO cam gear tuning, and little to none on ingition tuning.

i feel 160whp is well within reach once the motor gets some more miles on it, and once he gets some cam gears.

I never really made more than 3 whp from cam gear tuning with either of teh crower cams I have owned(403's and 404's). However, 3 whp is better than none. Also once teh motor completely breaks in and the piston rings completely seal, you will make more power. Solely b/c you will have more compression, and no parasitic losses. Ignition tuning and better gas will also help. What are your A/F ratios? 160 whp is obtainable, I think after break in and more thorough tuning. Congrats, and keep us the good work. Let us know what you think after you take it for a spin.

[ALLMOTA92EG]

Yeah ive seen the video on nonvtec.com

[VtecKiDD]

yeah i dont think 9whp is going to be gained solely from cam gear tuning. but i think 2-4whp is possible.

That with more miles on the motor, 93octane, and some ignition clean up will be close.

A/F ratios were dead even 13.8:1 across the board. thats were it like it.

[DA-MAX]

good numbers so far man...other than the head work I pretty much have the same setup. I think my winter project will definently be a port job and saving up for a better header, right now i have an old B16 Mugen/Jazma 4-2-1

[projectTeG]

wow, and its still making power at redline...why not spin it higher?

[VtecKiDD]

it only has 60 miles on it, so we opted for a safe tune

[projectTeG]

Originally Posted by VtecKiDD

it only has 60 miles on it, so we opted for a safe tune

oh ok i see....so we can expect more out of this engine in the near future....all these poss about NA ls engines is giving me hope on my build.

[EJ_ALLMOTA]

Damn Mike, you getting lots of praise, like the motor belongs to you, its cool though. For anyone that doesn't know i'm the owner of the car. Shit seems to be making good power for 403s. As soon as i'm finished payin ya ass off for the build i'm gonna get me some adjustable cam gears, try and get a ported head and maybe even some 404s. We'll see how it goes.. Big shout out to Mainstream Performance and Scotty for tuning my shit though, because i know its you guys first time dealin with an all-motor LS.

[projectTeG]

Originally Posted by EJ_ALLMOTA

Damn Mike, you getting lots of praise, like the motor belongs to you, its cool though. For anyone that doesn't know i'm the owner of the car. Shit seems to be making good power for 403s. As soon as i'm finished payin ya ass off for the build i'm gonna get me some adjustable cam gears, try and get a ported head and maybe even some 404s. We'll see how it goes.. Big shout out to Mainstream Performance and Scotty for tuning my shit though, because i know its you guys first time dealin with an all-motor LS.

[hybrid_vtec]

Originally Posted by VtecKiDD

it only has 60 miles on it, so we opted for a safe tune

Does it have ARP rod bolts? If so it should be fine, but it is better to be safe than sorry.

Originally Posted by EJ_ALLMOTA

Damn Mike, you getting lots of praise, like the motor belongs to you, its cool though. For anyone that doesn't know i'm the owner of the car. Shit seems to be making good power for 403s. As soon as i'm finished payin ya ass off for the build i'm gonna get me some adjustable cam gears, try and get a ported head and maybe even some 404s. We'll see how it goes.. Big shout out to Mainstream Performance and Scotty for tuning my shit though, because i know its you guys first time dealin with an all-motor LS.

Be sure to keep us updated on futur mods.

[VtecKiDD]

yes it has ARP bolts, however, i felt 20 pulls to damn near 8000rpms was enough for it for now. IT is not my car, and its not my motor , ill let the rings seat a little more and have him run some miles off on it and ill be sure to keep everyone updated.

im already looking for some 404s

EDIT: drove it this morning, feels very nice for NonVtec.