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Old 08-03-2005, 10:24 AM   #1
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Default How To: Making the Greddy Turbo Timer coexist with your alarm

I've found only two useful threads on honda-tech in accomplishing this task. And they can be found here:

1. http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1055163
2. http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=437044


So I will add a third. I actually used their threads to install my turbotimer..but I had to modify the wiring a little different from their schematics.


Here is Syner-G-Racing's diagram:


And here is my diagram:


Hooking up the turbotimer is the same between the two diagrams:
1. red wire on turbotimer to white wire coming off of the ignition switch.
2. blue wire on turbotimer to yellow wire coming off of the ignition switch.
3. green wire on turbotimer to black/yellow wire coming off of the ignition switch.
4. black wire on turbotimer to chasis ground.
5. gray wire on turbotimer to pin 86 on the relay.

Now keep in mind, that you are not cutting the ignition wires and connecting them to the turbotimer wires, you are just running the turbotimer wires with the ignition wires. So just stripping a small portion of the ignition wires to expose them is necessary. You can either solder the turbotimer wires and the ignition wires together (recommended) or you can be lazy like me and just use wire tappers . Or you can be really really lazy and just wrap the wires together and electrical tape them

The differences in Syner-G-Racing's diagram and my diagram lies in getting the alarm to coexist with the turbotimer. I started with my constant 12v source that is connected to the brain of my alarm (red wire coming off alarm in diagram). I just connected some extra wire I had laying around to that constant 12v, and ran it to pin 85 on the relay(nothing different from Syner-G-Racing yet).

(Here is where it is different from Syner-G-Racing)Next was the ignition wires that was connected to the brain of my alarm(yellow wire coming off alarm in diagram). Now on this wire, I did cut it. The end of the wire that was coming off of the alarm was connected to pin 87a on the relay, and the other end of the wire was just taped up with electrical tape and not connected to anything at all.

Finally, the gray wire that comes off of the turbotimer, I had that directly connected to pin 86 on the relay.

If you notice, there are two assessory wires (purple and brown) I didnt' hook these up, and there really isn't a need to unless you want to use the extra options offered by the greddy turbo timer. But if you do want to use them, you can use Syner-G-Racing's diagram.

In the end, on your relay, pin 30 and 87 are left open and unconnected to anything. Yes I know on Syner-G-Racing's diagram, his pinout 30 is connected to the other end of the igntion wire that we had cut. But when I tried this, my alarm would not arm itself at all. Only when I just left pin 30 open and the ignition wire unconected would my alarm arm itself.

Final impressions
In all, the job was an easy task. However, it took me almost 4-5 hours to get it completed due to 4-5 trips to autozone or walmart for parts that I didn't have or ran out of. Just make sure you have plenty of wire tappers, butt connectors, electrical tape, wire, wire crimps, solder, etc.

I also had to find a wiring diagram for my alarm in order to figure out which wires coming off of the brain were my ignition and constant 12v wires. Stuff like that can be found on google search which is where I found mine. Just type in the brand & model of the alarm, and the keywords (diagram, wiring, or maybe even wiring diagram). The brand of alarm I feel is irrelevant in terms of making the turbotimer coexist with the turbotimer. But if you guys are wondering, I am running the CrimeStopper SuperPage II alarm system.

I have had no issues so far. The radiator fan still comes on during the countdown. The alarm is capable of being armed during the countdown while the motor is running. The engine vibration does not set off my alarm, however, opening the door or an abrupt slap on the window, door, fender will still set it off . I guess I just have the sensitivity set just right on my alarm

Finally! I would like to say thanks to Syner-G-Racing and 2kturboex for their excellent job on providing the info.


Hope this helps some people ,
Khoi



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Old 08-03-2005, 10:32 AM   #2
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Default Re: How To: Making the Greddy Turbo Timer coexist with your alarm (Sohc Driver)

Yup...thats in the FAQ thread in the Integra section isn't it?
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Old 08-03-2005, 12:57 PM   #3
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Yup...thats in the FAQ thread in the Integra section isn't it?
I just looked there and didn't see it. But I don't frequent the integra forum anyways. And also, my schematics were a little different than others. Not quite sure why, but atleast it gives more alternative routes to wiring incase one fails.

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hey sohc driver... im kinda having a problem.. well my alarm works now and all but when i first wired it up the way you did it, the alarm went off couple times when i armed the car while the TT was going but now it works perfectly fine. another thing i noticed is that my alarm light blinks hella fast. after the motor shuts off the alarm light blink normal.. another problem im having is when i unarm the car the alarm beeps couple more times. do you think i should try wiring it up the other way? thanks for all the help
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def have to subscribe to this so i can ask my friend to do it for me...i hate electrical shit
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def have to subscribe to this so i can ask my friend to do it for me...i hate electrical shit
I hate electrical stuff too...my hands get all sweaty, etc...sucks donkey balls.
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nice writeup!

all i did was make my alarm passive arm hehe, but now that im redoing all my wiring and crap ima try this out!
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nice writeup!

all i did was make my alarm passive arm hehe, but now that im redoing all my wiring and crap ima try this out!
cool deal..good luck..feel free to ask any questions!
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im having problems again if i wire it up how G racing did it doesnt work. but if i do it Khois way, it works but the alarm is going off when its counting down... damn HELP
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all i did was make my alarm passive arm
same here
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if your alarm goes off when you use ur tt it's useaully because of the alarms shock sensor also it can some times see ignition as well...you can use a relay and a pulse timer to take care of that...i will make some diagrams sometime.....if you understand how a relay works you should be able to figure it out...and remember to fuse all 12v connections and as well have no bare connections...USE A GOOD QUALITY CRIMPER "klien's, snap-on" or soilder whicher ever.....good luck
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that was my first time working w/ electricals... im a noob.. i just spliced it and soilder it... could u make a diagram of wat i should do?
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i got the clifford ig 7000... and the old school greddy turbo timer. Which way should i hook it up? Sohc Driver way or synerg?


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im going to try this...but so far i have no realy greivances with my viper 6xx 2-way and hks turbo timer...i usually let it run for 30 seconds...if im driving for more than a half hour i set it at 60 seconds...i run inside to wherever im going and just arm the alarm when my 2way doesnt show that the ignition is on anymore
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I set mine for 2:30 minutes when I drive around town, and 4:30 minutes after I get through beasting it.

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interesting..i got my "timer" numbers from when i ran the autotimer on the hks unit....why do you let it run for so long?
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interesting..i got my "timer" numbers from when i ran the autotimer on the hks unit....why do you let it run for so long?
I have an EGT guage hooked up, and I set it pretty much to where my EGTs go back to it's lowest point.

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very nice...good idea...whats yur setup like?
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very nice...good idea...whats yur setup like?
What do you mean? You want to know my engine setup?

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turbo timers = rice

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but cool info
My interior dash looks like a freaking space shuttle now. 4 greddy guages, a greddy boost controller, and a greddy turbo timer
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My interior dash looks like a freaking space shuttle now. 4 greddy guages, a greddy boost controller, and a greddy turbo timer

hah, dont burn up re-entering the atmosphere ok?
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