FINALLY I CAN TALK ABOUT THE CRZ!

[genjosanzo]

[quote=CRX Lover;40482348]If, after a test drive, it's as fun to drive as my crx, I'm getting one. I have been waiting for the crx to come back to the states for years - and this seems like the closest we'll get to it. I'm with you.

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[DecepticonDc5]

2800? really??

[crxcess]

I'll probably wait until they are a couple years old and swap mounts and harnesses are available. I can't see having a hybrid honda for more than its warranty life.

But then what about emissions? coould you get this car to pass with a k20a2 in it?

[ZygSpeed]

I already get ~35 mpg on the highway in my stock 06 Si (70-75 mph on Michelin X-Ice2 snow tires no less), so I'd hope that by driving the CR-Z "lightly" on the highway that you could be able to get at least 50 mpg.

Still, I'd like to take one for a test drive once the get stateside in fall of next year.

[redDAinteg]

If honda offered an Si model of the CR-Z with any kind of K20 engine it would definately be a hit to the tuner world. That alone would get me to think about buying one.

[H22Ej1]

Originally Posted by crxcess

But then what about emissions? coould you get this car to pass with a k20a2 in it?

if its swapped right with no cels im sure most places will pass you...that is unless your in california

[senser1080]

Most of you guys make Honda owners look bad. Hopefully you don't talk like this in real life.

[JNocon]

I love that CR-Z concept! When it reach the U.S. soil and starts selling at my closest Honda dealer, I'm going to trade in my EG Si. But, I know its just a "concept car", some parts of the car won't look like that. Honda might change-it-up a little bit.

[What.]

If the FT-86 drops in FY2011, i would expect Team Droo-P to unveil one for D1 at the TAS round 1-2 in late January 2012. Who wants to place bets? Yoshioka driving it.

i think that crz would weigh 2600, maybe a little less with a K20a2 swap and no other weight reduction. would probably run about like a gutted out rsx type s with a stock motor. nothing to write home about, but an excellent car to send your daughter to college with.

[SHG_Mike]

Originally Posted by ~sp33~

Honda seems to think that by giving a car more than 100hp, it's a sports car.

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And dumbass americans think that unless it has 200+ hp its not a sports car. Some of the most sporty cars and fun to drive cars have little over a 100hp and are "slow as fvck" in a straight line.

A sports car by name definition is a car used for sport. Not a car that accelerates sub 13'' 1/4mile and can impress all your buddies at the local coffee shop. Its a car that can be used on track and that puts a smile on your face the whole time.


the crz looks tempting and i cant wait to test drive one

[What.]

<sigh>

dumbass amurrrkins huh?

sports cars by definition arent 'cars used for sport'. there are guys who race riding lawnmowers, at sanctioned events. there are guys who race civics in Macau every year. neither or sports cars man.

sports cars, to me at least, are cars that cut little or no economical corners in the pursuit of performance. if sometime during the design process they said "it would handle a little better if we did this, but that might make the price a little out of the range of a college student....' then its not a sports car. think nsx. gtr.

read about that new hachi. looks to me like subie just didnt want to put their name on something that wasnt AWD, and yota was within earshot.

[SHG_Mike]

Thats the mind set that never brings the Type R to the US. Few people in the USA would spend 30k on a 'slow' civic with 'only' 225hp. They could care less that it laps faster then a R34 GT-R, FD RX-7, and Evo VI. Honda even gave us a test with the CR and Mugen Si, and nobody gave a shit. They Arent 300hp AWD. Id rather drive a 100hp miata/civic on track then a 350hp evo/sti on the street anyday

[~sp33~]

Originally Posted by SHG_Mike

And dumbass americans think that unless it has 200+ hp its not a sports car. Some of the most sporty cars and fun to drive cars have little over a 100hp and are "slow as fvck" in a straight line.

A sports car by name definition is a car used for sport. Not a car that accelerates sub 13'' 1/4mile and can impress all your buddies at the local coffee shop. Its a car that can be used on track and that puts a smile on your face the whole time.


the crz looks tempting and i cant wait to test drive one

I'm not from America, so i feel exempt.

[What.]

sweet as

[ed62ef9]

Im liking how the new CRZ looks i might get one too.

[tnez]

drop a K in this bitch.

[George Knighton]

Originally Posted by SHG_Mike

Thats the mind set that never brings the Type R to the US. Few people in the USA would spend 30k on a 'slow' civic with 'only' 225hp. They could care less that it laps faster then a R34 GT-R, FD RX-7, and Evo VI. Honda even gave us a test with the CR and Mugen Si, and nobody gave a shit. They Arent 300hp AWD. Id rather drive a 100hp miata/civic on track then a 350hp evo/sti on the street anyday

Well. I dunno.

The obvious compromise solutions are right there under our noses!!

If you can swing it, you can get a 305 HP AWD Honda that'll lap faster than a 365 HP SHO at every track it's been to so far.

If you can't swing it, well there is still that marvelous 200 HP Civic with a Torsen axle that you can have a blast in and still get close to 30 miles per gallon.

I don't know why people are always acting like there's something better than Honda. For the average common sense, everyday user, I don't think there is any more obvious choice than Honda.

[95tegbuild]

i think a swap is its only chance.... sohc?lame elecric? lame. just bring back the traditional crx put a beast motor in it and be done.... why go out of you way to make it electric. i give it two thumbs down its a prius with a manual shift and some honda badges.

[ZygSpeed]

I think it would be fine with 140 hp plus IMA, and the lighter the better.

[SHG_Mike]

Originally Posted by George Knighton

Well. I dunno.

The obvious compromise solutions are right there under our noses!!

If you can swing it, you can get a 305 HP AWD Honda that'll lap faster than a 365 HP SHO at every track it's been to so far.

If you can't swing it, well there is still that marvelous 200 HP Civic with a Torsen axle that you can have a blast in and still get close to 30 miles per gallon.

I don't know why people are always acting like there's something better than Honda. For the average common sense, everyday user, I don't think there is any more obvious choice than Honda.

Ive been lucky enough to drive a whole bunch of cars in a performance environment and the only thing that comes close to putting the same excitement and smile on my face as a Honda is the e46 M3 and the lexus ISF. Evos and Sti's are lack luster and boring to drive IMO. Fast as hell, but boring


To each there own but there is no other company that has a much pride and passion, has the engine power and technology,has hand built motors etc as honda for under a average mans price. The only other companies I've seen with these traits are BMW and Ferrari, both of which have a MUCH higher price tag

[What.]

awd 300hp honda huh?

365hp SHO? i hope you dont mean taurus.

[What.]

Originally Posted by 95tegbuild

i think a swap is its only chance.... sohc?lame elecric? lame. just bring back the traditional crx put a beast motor in it and be done.... why go out of you way to make it electric. i give it two thumbs down its a prius with a manual shift and some honda badges.

you can not think like an enthusiast. you have to think like a bean counter. do you really think something like a 88 crx with a k20esque engine is a GOOD idea mass marketed?

[SHG_Mike]

Originally Posted by 95tegbuild

i think a swap is its only chance.... sohc?lame elecric? lame. just bring back the traditional crx put a beast motor in it and be done.... why go out of you way to make it electric. i give it two thumbs down its a prius with a manual shift and some honda badges.

The original CRX had 108HP and was a sohc?

Everyone wants the CRX back but with a 400hp turbo v6?! I dont get it. 140hp with 10-20 extra HP's will be more then enough.

The EM1 civic Si had 160 hp and 111ft/lb and weighed 2600 lbs and wasnt considered to be a dog.

The Insight weighs 2700 lbs. The CRZ will not weigh more then that

so 2700lbs with 150-160hp and 160-170 lb/ft of tq wont be enough?

[SHG_Mike]

Originally Posted by What.

awd 300hp honda huh?



365hp SHO? i hope you dont mean taurus.

[~sp33~]

Originally Posted by What.

you can not think like an enthusiast. you have to think like a bean counter. do you really think something like a 88 crx with a k20esque engine is a GOOD idea mass marketed?

This is what i was thinking to start with, though Honda really does need a sports car in their line up.

Perhaps this is just an Australian POV, we recently had the s2k discontinued leaving us with not alot....