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timg · 03-29-2006, 09:06 PM

To me, it was a heart vs head decision. I loved the STI and it made a LOT of sense- 4 doors, pretty quiet, sedan, AWD, CHEAP mods, and much faster. The S2000 didn't make much sense- noisy, convertable, $$$ mods, 2 seater, small trunk, etc.

However, after driving both, my heart kept pulling for the 2 seat RWD convertable even though my head was saying STI.

I've driven both and really like both. In the end, it should come down to what do you want/need. Will it be a daily driver, will you need to drive in snow, haul big loads, modify it for speed, is it a second or third car, a weekend car, what's the weather like there, etc.? The S2000 can make a good winter car, but can be pretty noisy and small to be a daily driver. Putting the top down or the hardtop on helps, but it is still a much smaller car than the STI. That can be either good or bad depending on what you need it to do.

Tim

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hypnosisracing · 03-30-2006, 05:50 AM

All performance mumbo jumbo asside...the S2000 is a much more FUN car to own and drive, both of them make terrible daily drivers (in my opinion) and truely, neither one of them really get anywhere near their potential on the street (without being a total baffoon)...so just buy the one you're heart is happy with, because these arnt cars you're buying to be "smart" in the first place...they're performance cars...

Nishant · 03-30-2006, 07:36 AM

This thread will be locked as the topic of sti vs s2k has been thoroughly discussed...

To answer your question noobvile, just go test drive both and then buy which you like better

Kitsune · 03-30-2006, 07:47 AM

STI all the way, S2000 is a great looking car and great bitch magnet but STI hands down if you want to lay down the ownage.

Mike

evil vapor · 03-30-2006, 10:50 AM

actually, there's some good discussion in here.

Negs · 03-30-2006, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Lucky

i'll be the white ranger.... have you heard the low down on the red ranger?

[quote=Mr. Lucky]

never ever speak of that again. man, i looked up to that bastard. now, i feel so very dirty. so so dirty.

b18c195 · 03-30-2006, 12:54 PM

i dont like the big wing on the sti's

looks wise the S

u probably needs to ask someone who's had both...

S@nt0s · 03-30-2006, 01:12 PM

i always see threads like this and wonder....

i have been thinking things out the last 2 months about letting go of my S2K.. for a EVO or STI....
due to the the room issue....im 24/single no kids... but i hate the lack of room and the noise gets to me a lot....
the chances of the top needing replacement or getting slashed....

but then the top is down on the S2 its a different world..... top up or down u always get the looks (which always feels good)

but as a daily IDK.. ive daily'd mine since NOV and it isnt that bad but can be better

revvin9k · 03-30-2006, 02:13 PM

Get an Evo.

S@nt0s · 03-30-2006, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revvin9k

Get an Evo.

gee i wonder y he's saying that..HEHEHEHE

Nishant · 03-30-2006, 04:28 PM

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1345345

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=879679

RotiEatter · 03-30-2006, 05:35 PM

Man I am kinda going through this right now, well I have a stock 04 STi and I am thinking about selling it for a S2000. Let me give you some background first. I had a turbo LS CRX(227hp),not super fast but fun for my age, I drove it around for about a year and sold it. I then built a 99 Civic hatch, fully built GSR motor turbo(531hp). I sold the hatch after about a year because I decided I wanted a stock car so I could focus on school.

So I put all that I sold the hatch for as a down payment($12,000) so I could afford the payments of the STi($223 a month). Well the STi feels slow to me and to be honest I miss having a turbo Honda

. So I figure why sell the STi and build another Civic, so I wanna build a turbo S2000, I figure I can afford a 2001, because I can sell the STi for what i bought it for since i got a good deal. I'd keep some of the down payment as funds for a Full-Race kit for the S2000. Ive only had the STi for 4 months, its a fun car, but I just cant stand driving a stock car, but also cant justify modding it.

I love having a 4-door sometimes when Im with all my friends, but I also think I will be happy with a S200 cause of the amazing fun factor. Im just really torn right now and cant decide. Some advise would be great

S2KJ55 · 03-30-2006, 05:37 PM

look man sorry but the s2k is awsome i drove it and i loved it at truth....i have a 03 with 6k miles on it. brand new. if your into a powerful n/a car its the way to go.

revvin9k · 03-30-2006, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S2KJ55

. if your into a powerful n/a car its the way to go.

STImachine · 03-31-2006, 05:37 AM

STI's can look alot better with a simple trunk swap for those not in love with the wing.

Mine:

My wife's S2000 sits almost all winter long. Any sign of snow, and she can't make it out of the neighborhood. But, I live in CO, so you must think about your local weather.

As for hypnosis: dude, you're an idiot. The STI is an amazing daily driver, my 05 has over 40,000 miles on it. It's comfy, got way more room than the wife's S2K, and is quite fast. A blast to drive on back roads, and easy to get to and from work, run to Lowe's for some stuff and get some groceries. Try doing that in an S2000.

hypnosisracing · 03-31-2006, 06:04 AM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As for hypnosis: dude, you're an idiot. The STI is an amazing daily driver, my 05 has over 40,000 miles on it. It's comfy, got way more room than the wife's S2K, and is quite fast. A blast to drive on back roads, and easy to get to and from work, run to Lowe's for some stuff and get some groceries. Try doing that in an S2000.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow...you enter what i consider a pretty good discussion with 5th grade elementary school playground name calling? Thats mature bud...

Anyways...to respond to your ever so charming post, why dont you go back and read what i put...you present your response as if i was saying the S2000 was better than the STi as far as comfort and utility...i'll be the FIRST person to admit that the S2000 is not only fairly uncomfortable, but its also about as utility based as a hot dog...

And i never said the STi wasnt fun to drive, i said in my opinion the S2000 was MORE fun to drive and own, and heres why...the car is a roadster (meaning with the top down, you can enjoy a nice drive into the mountains, at the beach or wherever youd possibly enjoy a convertible...and more fun to own because a more lax warranty setup, better gas mileage, reliability of a honda, as well as the up sides of having a 2 seater (which in my opinion eliminates the headache of having people ride with you much more often)...

And again...it was my opinion...if you disagree that is fine, but to come in here, and call me an idiot because of what i said, what the hell is that? One of my best friends has an STi, and it is an absolute beast of a car...but the car is not a comfortable car to drive, you have to understand that i have two luxury cars, and comfort is something that the STi, S2000 and half the other sports cars on the market just cant compare to in my experience and from the cars i drive daily...

Now if you want to keep calling names like a 6 year old...feel free, but it does nothing to further any point you MIGHT have...

Mr. Lucky · 03-31-2006, 07:03 AM

all in all... i'm still waiting for my damn sandwich...

these threads never stay on topic. like i said before... just have him drive both. see what he likes and then buy. everyone has their own personal preference in cars.

hypnosisracing · 03-31-2006, 07:07 AM

^^^ muahahaha...good stuff.

STImachine · 03-31-2006, 07:22 AM

My bad on the idiot thing. You are correct, no need for name calling.

Subaru is rated #1 for reliability ahead of Toyota and Honda accordingly. Please explain what you mean by a "more lax warranty"? I know I've had my rear struts replaced "under warranty" at 38,000 miles. That's with my aftermarket springs installed as well. I'd say that's pretty damn good customer service.

hypnosisracing · 03-31-2006, 07:48 AM

You and everyone else knows that warranty work through Honda is MUCH easier to get through, even with aftermarket parts added than any subaru dealership...just ask my friend who had a put rims on his car, had transmission issues and had the dealership give him grief about the WHEELS...lol, seriously, and they were almost the exact spec of the BBS's! That is what i meant...the fact that with Honda, if and when you do need to go in for warranty work, chances are you arnt going to get grief for the same kind of things that people in the STi and Evo world face...(especially the people with Evo's, i dont even want to get into that nightmare)...

As for reliability...we dont even need to go there...regardless of what a magazine or consumer reports website tells the world, arguing reliability against honda behind a subaru is a moot point.

And to clarify something as well...i never once made the statement that in all situations, no matter who you are what what your opinion is, the S2000 is better. I said that my thoughts on it (meaning "my opinion) are that the car is better in the fields that i listed...i could post a LIST of things the STi does better than the S2000, including performance, functionality, utility, interior room, luggage room, inclement weather driving, etc etc etc...dont think i place the S2000 over the STi on this throne or anything, if you read my post again, you'll understand clearly what i was getting at. Neither car is better than the other, they just serve some very different purposes, and at the same time...some very similar ones...and if i had to choose one, id remain on the side of the S2000, for my own reasons stated.

STImachine · 03-31-2006, 07:54 AM

I understand this is your opinion. There are facts though. Subaru is rated #1 in reliability right now. And, I've seen plenty of Honda owners denied warranty work due to aftermarket parts. I gave my own personal experience with warranty work from Subaru. This isn't about an EVO. Everyone knows about those nightmares. I never accused you of stating the S2K was better, just giving argument for the other side of the discussion, seems like you're getting a little worked up, I calmed down after you called me out.

I also stated to drive both, then decide.

p nut · 03-31-2006, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STImachine

There are facts though. Subaru is rated #1 in reliability right now.

Care to post your source? First time I've heard of this.

hypnosisracing · 03-31-2006, 08:36 AM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">seems like you're getting a little worked up</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not at all...im relaxed as hell, its beautiful and 80 degrees outside, a/c is on and im about to get off work...lol, im about as anti-worked up as you can get honestly.

I was just stating my own experience with the cars...hell, my brothers Infiniti G35 coupe was rated at one time one of the most reliable sports coupes on the market, but that car has been quite a headache for him...electrical issues, clutch issues, etc etc etc, then on the other side of the fence...BMW, which has a history of being incredibly unreliable...my wife's 325Ci has been fantastic without a single issue.

I dont buy into generic "Best of..." anything...personal experience is all i base my opinions on, and of the people i know with S2000's vs. the people i know who have STI's...the people with the Honda had a more reliable car, and better service at the dealership.

Mr. Projekt · 03-31-2006, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STImachine

There are facts though. Subaru is rated #1 in reliability right now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by P Nut

Care to post your source? First time I've heard of this.

He's part right. Per specific cars, the only model rated above the S2000 in reliability is the WRX STi. Not the run of the mill WRX, not any Subaru, just the STi.

Mr. Projekt · 03-31-2006, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STImachine

run to Lowe's for some stuff and get some groceries. Try doing that in an S2000.

Actually, I'm a contractor and I do go to Lowe's/Home Depot quite a bit. I drive on job sites with the S. I can haul a reasonable amount of goods. Your point is moot.

Would I rather take the S or the STi to Lowe's? Neither! I'd take the van or the truck. Taking the S to Lowe's is as frivolous as driving it in snow, but people do it.

Modified by ProjektSlideways at 11:15 AM 3/31/2006

03-30-2006, 05:50 AM	#27
hypnosisracing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Towne Lake, GA, USA Posts: 2,823	Re: (timg) All performance mumbo jumbo asside...the S2000 is a much more FUN car to own and drive, both of them make terrible daily drivers (in my opinion) and truely, neither one of them really get anywhere near their potential on the street (without being a total baffoon)...so just buy the one you're heart is happy with, because these arnt cars you're buying to be "smart" in the first place...they're performance cars... __________________ '04 BMW Z4 3.0i Sport (2pts from Dinan Stage 1 woot!)Click for Pic '04 Honda S2000 R.I.P. '03 BMW 325Ci Sport (Sold) '04 Volkswagen GTi 1.8T (little beater project)

03-30-2006, 07:36 AM	#28
Nishant Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lost Somewhere Posts: 14,614	Re: (hypnosisracing) This thread will be locked as the topic of sti vs s2k has been thoroughly discussed... To answer your question noobvile, just go test drive both and then buy which you like better __________________ 07 Civic Si Sedan TW w/Nav 99 CL 3.0 - Sold 02 S2000 Suzuka Blue - Sold 6/1/06 01 ITR #703 - RIP stolen 5/16/04 93 Corolla DX - RIP by some Semi-Truck Otaku Squad Member #012 PS3: Tailor83

03-30-2006, 10:50 AM	#30
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03-30-2006, 12:54 PM	#32
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03-30-2006, 01:12 PM	#33
S@nt0s Munkyw3rkz.web.com Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PUTTIN UR MOUTH ON CURBZ 310, SoCal Posts: 22,540	Re: (b18c195) i always see threads like this and wonder.... i have been thinking things out the last 2 months about letting go of my S2K.. for a EVO or STI.... due to the the room issue....im 24/single no kids... but i hate the lack of room and the noise gets to me a lot.... the chances of the top needing replacement or getting slashed.... but then the top is down on the S2 its a different world..... top up or down u always get the looks (which always feels good) but as a daily IDK.. ive daily'd mine since NOV and it isnt that bad but can be better __________________ http://munkyw3rkz.webs.com/ MUNKYW3RKZ Fabrications for all your custom fab needs, IC piping, Turbo manifolds, Race prep etc.

03-30-2006, 07:47 AM	#29
Kitsune Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 7	STI all the way, S2000 is a great looking car and great bitch magnet but STI hands down if you want to lay down the ownage. Mike

03-30-2006, 02:13 PM	#34
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03-30-2006, 04:28 PM	#36
Nishant Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lost Somewhere Posts: 14,614	Re: s2000 vs STI: pros and cons of each (SnoFlake) http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1345345 http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=879679 __________________ 07 Civic Si Sedan TW w/Nav 99 CL 3.0 - Sold 02 S2000 Suzuka Blue - Sold 6/1/06 01 ITR #703 - RIP stolen 5/16/04 93 Corolla DX - RIP by some Semi-Truck Otaku Squad Member #012 PS3: Tailor83

03-30-2006, 05:35 PM	#37
RotiEatter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atlanta, 770/404 Posts: 10,185	Re: s2000 vs STI: pros and cons of each (Nishant) Man I am kinda going through this right now, well I have a stock 04 STi and I am thinking about selling it for a S2000. Let me give you some background first. I had a turbo LS CRX(227hp),not super fast but fun for my age, I drove it around for about a year and sold it. I then built a 99 Civic hatch, fully built GSR motor turbo(531hp). I sold the hatch after about a year because I decided I wanted a stock car so I could focus on school. So I put all that I sold the hatch for as a down payment($12,000) so I could afford the payments of the STi($223 a month). Well the STi feels slow to me and to be honest I miss having a turbo Honda . So I figure why sell the STi and build another Civic, so I wanna build a turbo S2000, I figure I can afford a 2001, because I can sell the STi for what i bought it for since i got a good deal. I'd keep some of the down payment as funds for a Full-Race kit for the S2000. Ive only had the STi for 4 months, its a fun car, but I just cant stand driving a stock car, but also cant justify modding it. I love having a 4-door sometimes when Im with all my friends, but I also think I will be happy with a S200 cause of the amazing fun factor. Im just really torn right now and cant decide. Some advise would be great __________________ 92 Civic= H22A 13.84@100mph SOLD 92 Civic= H2B 95 Integra GSR= SOLD 99 Civic= 2.0L B18C1-T 531 HP/ 410 TQ SOLD 04 STi= 12.6@107 SOLD

03-30-2006, 05:37 PM	#38
S2KJ55 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: FL, USA Posts: 220	look man sorry but the s2k is awsome i drove it and i loved it at truth....i have a 03 with 6k miles on it. brand new. if your into a powerful n/a car its the way to go.

03-31-2006, 06:04 AM	#41
hypnosisracing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Towne Lake, GA, USA Posts: 2,823	Re: (STImachine) <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As for hypnosis: dude, you're an idiot. The STI is an amazing daily driver, my 05 has over 40,000 miles on it. It's comfy, got way more room than the wife's S2K, and is quite fast. A blast to drive on back roads, and easy to get to and from work, run to Lowe's for some stuff and get some groceries. Try doing that in an S2000.</TD></TR></TABLE> Wow...you enter what i consider a pretty good discussion with 5th grade elementary school playground name calling? Thats mature bud... Anyways...to respond to your ever so charming post, why dont you go back and read what i put...you present your response as if i was saying the S2000 was better than the STi as far as comfort and utility...i'll be the FIRST person to admit that the S2000 is not only fairly uncomfortable, but its also about as utility based as a hot dog... And i never said the STi wasnt fun to drive, i said in my opinion the S2000 was MORE fun to drive and own, and heres why...the car is a roadster (meaning with the top down, you can enjoy a nice drive into the mountains, at the beach or wherever youd possibly enjoy a convertible...and more fun to own because a more lax warranty setup, better gas mileage, reliability of a honda, as well as the up sides of having a 2 seater (which in my opinion eliminates the headache of having people ride with you much more often)... And again...it was my opinion...if you disagree that is fine, but to come in here, and call me an idiot because of what i said, what the hell is that? One of my best friends has an STi, and it is an absolute beast of a car...but the car is not a comfortable car to drive, you have to understand that i have two luxury cars, and comfort is something that the STi, S2000 and half the other sports cars on the market just cant compare to in my experience and from the cars i drive daily... Now if you want to keep calling names like a 6 year old...feel free, but it does nothing to further any point you MIGHT have... __________________ '04 BMW Z4 3.0i Sport (2pts from Dinan Stage 1 woot!)Click for Pic '04 Honda S2000 R.I.P. '03 BMW 325Ci Sport (Sold) '04 Volkswagen GTi 1.8T (little beater project)

03-31-2006, 07:03 AM	#42
Mr. Lucky Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kansas Shitty, KS Posts: 1,362	Re: (hypnosisracing) all in all... i'm still waiting for my damn sandwich... these threads never stay on topic. like i said before... just have him drive both. see what he likes and then buy. everyone has their own personal preference in cars. __________________ AKA:bs-inc.s2k Rep'n FR-MOB: and *bSiNC** PS3 - bSiNCs2k 360 - Dark913BuDDha

03-31-2006, 07:07 AM	#43
hypnosisracing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Towne Lake, GA, USA Posts: 2,823	Re: (Mr. Lucky) ^^^ muahahaha...good stuff. __________________ '04 BMW Z4 3.0i Sport (2pts from Dinan Stage 1 woot!)Click for Pic '04 Honda S2000 R.I.P. '03 BMW 325Ci Sport (Sold) '04 Volkswagen GTi 1.8T (little beater project)

03-31-2006, 07:48 AM	#45
hypnosisracing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Towne Lake, GA, USA Posts: 2,823	Re: (STImachine) You and everyone else knows that warranty work through Honda is MUCH easier to get through, even with aftermarket parts added than any subaru dealership...just ask my friend who had a put rims on his car, had transmission issues and had the dealership give him grief about the WHEELS...lol, seriously, and they were almost the exact spec of the BBS's! That is what i meant...the fact that with Honda, if and when you do need to go in for warranty work, chances are you arnt going to get grief for the same kind of things that people in the STi and Evo world face...(especially the people with Evo's, i dont even want to get into that nightmare)... As for reliability...we dont even need to go there...regardless of what a magazine or consumer reports website tells the world, arguing reliability against honda behind a subaru is a moot point. And to clarify something as well...i never once made the statement that in all situations, no matter who you are what what your opinion is, the S2000 is better. I said that my thoughts on it (meaning "my opinion) are that the car is better in the fields that i listed...i could post a LIST of things the STi does better than the S2000, including performance, functionality, utility, interior room, luggage room, inclement weather driving, etc etc etc...dont think i place the S2000 over the STi on this throne or anything, if you read my post again, you'll understand clearly what i was getting at. Neither car is better than the other, they just serve some very different purposes, and at the same time...some very similar ones...and if i had to choose one, id remain on the side of the S2000, for my own reasons stated. __________________ '04 BMW Z4 3.0i Sport (2pts from Dinan Stage 1 woot!)Click for Pic '04 Honda S2000 R.I.P. '03 BMW 325Ci Sport (Sold) '04 Volkswagen GTi 1.8T (little beater project)

03-31-2006, 08:36 AM	#48
hypnosisracing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Towne Lake, GA, USA Posts: 2,823	Re: (P Nut) <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">seems like you're getting a little worked up</TD></TR></TABLE> Not at all...im relaxed as hell, its beautiful and 80 degrees outside, a/c is on and im about to get off work...lol, im about as anti-worked up as you can get honestly. I was just stating my own experience with the cars...hell, my brothers Infiniti G35 coupe was rated at one time one of the most reliable sports coupes on the market, but that car has been quite a headache for him...electrical issues, clutch issues, etc etc etc, then on the other side of the fence...BMW, which has a history of being incredibly unreliable...my wife's 325Ci has been fantastic without a single issue. I dont buy into generic "Best of..." anything...personal experience is all i base my opinions on, and of the people i know with S2000's vs. the people i know who have STI's...the people with the Honda had a more reliable car, and better service at the dealership. __________________ '04 BMW Z4 3.0i Sport (2pts from Dinan Stage 1 woot!)Click for Pic '04 Honda S2000 R.I.P. '03 BMW 325Ci Sport (Sold) '04 Volkswagen GTi 1.8T (little beater project)

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