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Ben850 · 11-09-2009, 12:01 AM

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ladizzlee · 11-09-2009, 06:06 AM

im saving for my damn flashpro. $695 is my goal :D

FijiBlueFG2 · 11-09-2009, 07:10 AM

^Don't forget shipping

Greg50Lt · 11-09-2009, 11:53 AM

you can get them cheaper then 695 shipped.

Mattgrimes · 11-10-2009, 08:53 PM

does the lowered rpms for vtech engagement affect overall speed? 1/4 mile? or 0-60? and if so, by how much?
or is it just more hp earlier?

Ben850 · 11-10-2009, 09:57 PM

off the top of my head, more HP earlier should increase the rev speed and therefor reduce 1/4 and 0-60 times, correct?

Mattgrimes · 11-11-2009, 12:33 AM

also, this may be a dumb question, but it seems from dyno charts that I never paid close attention to, but sort of, that honda tuned the car originally to have the most power exactly at the shift point from 8000 (6200 rpms or whatever it is). Since the vtech is changed to start at 4500 or whatever the person chooses, does this negatively affect the shift points? I would think hondata would only make changes to increase power/ acceleration. But it's just a speculation.. Anyone?

dirtySOHC's · 11-16-2009, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattgrimes

does the lowered rpms for vtech engagement affect overall speed? 1/4 mile? or 0-60? and if so, by how much?
or is it just more hp earlier?

1) VTEC

2) if tuned correctly the early vtec engagement has been known to increase mid range and overall power so yes this can affect 1/4 miles times.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben850

off the top of my head, more HP earlier should increase the rev speed and therefor reduce 1/4 and 0-60 times, correct?

you got it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattgrimes

also, this may be a dumb question, but it seems from dyno charts that I never paid close attention to, but sort of, that honda tuned the car originally to have the most power exactly at the shift point from 8000 (6200 rpms or whatever it is). Since the vtech is changed to start at 4500 or whatever the person chooses, does this negatively affect the shift points?

it can negatively affect it if the person tuning doesn't know what they're doing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattgrimes

I would think hondata would only make changes to increase power/ acceleration. But it's just a speculation.. Anyone?

hondata is responsible for providing the flashpro....the results of using flashpro are a direct reflection of the user....not hondata.

Kentagious · 11-16-2009, 06:00 PM

Question...So i've got a buddy who I was talking to about Flash Pro and he was asking that if you could tune it don't u need a Wide Band O2 Sensor?

i-VTEC_DOHC · 11-16-2009, 06:21 PM

^no.

dirtySOHC's · 11-16-2009, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by i-VTEC_DOHC

^no.

don't mislead the guy.

kentagious, you dont need a wide band but it would be highly recommended. tuning without that is like tuning in the blind.

i-VTEC_DOHC · 11-16-2009, 11:15 PM

i didnt mislead him. i've only heard of those on boosted cars, not n/a with bolt ons. and since fp can datalog af ratios, i dont think its all too needed

dirtySOHC's · 11-17-2009, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i-VTEC_DOHC

i didnt mislead him. i've only heard of those on boosted cars, not n/a with bolt ons. and since fp can datalog af ratios, i dont think its all too needed

you need a wideband to tune either setup. you can't just change fuel and timing maps without reading AF ratios from a proper wideband.

where does FP get these readings from? are SI's equiped with stock wideband O2 sensors...I'm not sure. if so then you are correct and you don't need a wideband assuming the SI has stock wideband sensors.

either way you need a wideband for proper tuning.

Kentagious · 11-17-2009, 03:12 AM

Ok, but is it going to make a big difference if i'm running just bolt ons? I would think that would be the way to go when I buy my Super Charger...

i-VTEC_DOHC · 11-17-2009, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtySOHC's

you need a wideband to tune either setup. you can't just change fuel and timing maps without reading AF ratios from a proper wideband.

where does FP get these readings from? are SI's equiped with stock wideband O2 sensors...I'm not sure. if so then you are correct and you don't need a wideband assuming the SI has stock wideband sensors.

either way you need a wideband for proper tuning.

im guessing its getting its readings from the sensor. because on fp, it tells you your af ratio real-time. i can make a video to show it also.

ajpturbopittsburgh · 11-17-2009, 08:17 PM

They have a factory wide band 02 sensor. But if you have FI it's nice to have a gauge in the car so you can see if it goes lean and then you can back off.

Aftermarket wideband sensors read better than the stock one down in the richer areas i.e. 10's and 11's. N/A cars never run as rich so the factory wideband is not best suited for reading turbo a/f's when in boost tho. When you buy a wideband gauge they usually come with a sensor. I thought I read somewhere that the factory wideband is only accurate down to the 12's but aftermarket one's will read 10-20 AFR

tnk · 11-17-2009, 08:36 PM

so this would be the correct order with mods?
1. i/h/e
2. recalibrate with flashpro
3. tuner to fine tune

or a tuner isnt needed but highly recommended?

dirtySOHC's · 11-18-2009, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnk

so this would be the correct order with mods?
1. i/h/e
2. recalibrate with flashpro
3. tuner to fine tune

or a tuner isnt needed but highly recommended?

you can tune yourself if you know what you're doing.

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11-10-2009, 08:53 PM	#55
Mattgrimes Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 37	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* does the lowered rpms for vtech engagement affect overall speed? 1/4 mile? or 0-60? and if so, by how much? or is it just more hp earlier? __________________ 06 civic si

11-10-2009, 09:57 PM	#56
Ben850 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ogden, Utah, USA Posts: 304	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* off the top of my head, more HP earlier should increase the rev speed and therefor reduce 1/4 and 0-60 times, correct? __________________ 2008 Fiji Blue FG2

11-11-2009, 12:33 AM	#57
Mattgrimes Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 37	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* also, this may be a dumb question, but it seems from dyno charts that I never paid close attention to, but sort of, that honda tuned the car originally to have the most power exactly at the shift point from 8000 (6200 rpms or whatever it is). Since the vtech is changed to start at 4500 or whatever the person chooses, does this negatively affect the shift points? I would think hondata would only make changes to increase power/ acceleration. But it's just a speculation.. Anyone? __________________ 06 civic si

11-16-2009, 06:00 PM	#59
Kentagious Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: somewhere, WA, USA Posts: 152	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* Question...So i've got a buddy who I was talking to about Flash Pro and he was asking that if you could tune it don't u need a Wide Band O2 Sensor? __________________ DC Squad Member # 422 FG Squad Member # 300 '95 Bottle fed GS-R - Stolen '95 GS-R - Sold "07 NWBP Civic Si http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif

11-16-2009, 06:21 PM	#60
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11-16-2009, 11:15 PM	#62
i-VTEC_DOHC Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: killafornia Posts: 3,585	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* i didnt mislead him. i've only heard of those on boosted cars, not n/a with bolt ons. and since fp can datalog af ratios, i dont think its all too needed __________________ 2008 Fiji Blue Pearl FG2//2009 Arctic White Mercedes C300 Vouche list - jdmjim,07SIcpe, junnyx1 Economically proven - "The more you save, the less you have."

11-17-2009, 03:12 AM	#64
Kentagious Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: somewhere, WA, USA Posts: 152	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* Ok, but is it going to make a big difference if i'm running just bolt ons? I would think that would be the way to go when I buy my Super Charger... __________________ DC Squad Member # 422 FG Squad Member # 300 '95 Bottle fed GS-R - Stolen '95 GS-R - Sold "07 NWBP Civic Si http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif http://images.honda-tech.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif

11-17-2009, 08:17 PM	#66
ajpturbopittsburgh Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: West Mifflin, Pa, USA Posts: 468	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* They have a factory wide band 02 sensor. But if you have FI it's nice to have a gauge in the car so you can see if it goes lean and then you can back off. Aftermarket wideband sensors read better than the stock one down in the richer areas i.e. 10's and 11's. N/A cars never run as rich so the factory wideband is not best suited for reading turbo a/f's when in boost tho. When you buy a wideband gauge they usually come with a sensor. I thought I read somewhere that the factory wideband is only accurate down to the 12's but aftermarket one's will read 10-20 AFR

11-17-2009, 08:36 PM	#67
tnk Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: LA Posts: 694	Re: *The One and Only Official Hondata FlashPro Thread* so this would be the correct order with mods? 1. i/h/e 2. recalibrate with flashpro 3. tuner to fine tune or a tuner isnt needed but highly recommended? __________________ my WTB thread - check it out!! my FS thread - check it out!!

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