ITBs! for b18b will these work?

[fasst]

I have a 91' teg and I want to go ITB's... So I can only find them for 94-00 or whatever with non-vtec p75 head. I have seen skunk2 pro manis that say they fit the 90-00 all non-v tegs. the ITB's I'm looking at are the obx ones. My list is going to look like this *maybe ITBs, 68mm TB, skunk2 pro mani, porting, BC stg3 cams, Hytechs, full 2.5in Tsudo, chipped and tuned, driven with a 9lb flywheel and stg3 6-puck. Hopefully it would make for a mean sounding, fun daily driver.

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[20-EM2-05]

I'm just curious and forgive me for asking but.

Why throw ITB's on a B18B, it's not going to make much power for the cash spending to it.

IMO, I think you should LS/Vtec then ITB.

Then for your question, It should work since you say you have a B18B and those were from the 94-01 LS/RS/GS.

[fasst]

Did you go to school?lol First line says I have a 91, which is a B18A1. Why throw, ITBs on it? I dunno, that's why I'm asking some people that hopefully know something about it. I hate vtec. No vtec. Everyone thinks that if it has vtec it is godly, all these swapped kids driving around with stock B16s need to get destroyed by a NA non-vtec (maybe some juice that no one knows about)... So Once again, I have a B18A1 will a manifold (ITBs) for a B18B work?

[fasst]

Wait, in one occasion I think vtec is the ****ing most sexiest thing in the world. Youtube Toda vtec killers. It's where you take vtec and say **** vtec and put really cool non-vtec cams in a vtec head. How much cooler could it get? =]

[20-EM2-05]

God damn excuse me lmao. Goin' off on someone when they are trying give some damn opinions n shit. Lol.

First off, you never said what Engine you had under the hood. And from your title said I thought you had a B18B.

Vtec doesn't make you godly. It just makes you faster. Isn't that why most of the Honda/Acura have vtec now these days? Haha.

And for your question again.

Yes it will work.

[20-EM2-05]

Originally Posted by fasst

Wait, in one occasion I think vtec is the ****ing most sexiest thing in the world. Youtube Toda vtec killers. It's where you take vtec and say **** vtec and put really cool non-vtec cams in a vtec head. How much cooler could it get? =]

Lol. Actually, Toda Vtec Killer Cams are made for high reving engine such as B16A/B, B18C/5.

Try throwing them on some B18B/B20's and your plan to fail.

6.8K redline and using some cams to always stay in vtec and redlining to 9k-10k RPM is just screaming for your motor to caught on fire. Lol

[fasst]

No, I'm just having fun with you. Like I said, vtec killer cams. Lets see your vtec car beat it =] I'm pretty sure my car would be fast enough with some port work and nice lopey cams. cams that are pumping way more than even vtec engaged cams.

[20-EM2-05]

My car? A Fueled economy engine such as the D17A2.

I'd be happy to even see my car make it under 16's on the track.

Sorry my car's not for racing, it's for looks and for saving money in my pocket.

And as for your Vtec killer cams. Did you not read? It's made for vtec engines.

Any car with some port work and cams can be fast.

It's like saying throwing NOS and TURBO on your car and saying it's faster than a Stock B series.

[vladd]

Originally Posted by fasst

Did you go to school?lol First line says I have a 91, which is a B18A1. Why throw, ITBs on it? I dunno, that's why I'm asking some people that hopefully know something about it. I hate vtec. No vtec. Everyone thinks that if it has vtec it is godly, all these swapped kids driving around with stock B16s need to get destroyed by a NA non-vtec (maybe some juice that no one knows about)... So Once again, I have a B18A1 will a manifold (ITBs) for a B18B work?

so you hate motors that make more power than yours? perfectly understandable .

Originally Posted by fasst

No, I'm just having fun with you. Like I said, vtec killer cams. Lets see your vtec car beat it =] I'm pretty sure my car would be fast enough with some port work and nice lopey cams. cams that are pumping way more than even vtec engaged cams.

i hear vtec killer cams are pretty awesome for a car that spends a lot of time at low rpm (such as in daily driving).

[dntnedvtec]

if only you could see you poll results.

[fasst]

Originally Posted by 20-EM2-05

My car? A Fueled economy engine such as the D17A2.

I'd be happy to even see my car make it under 16's on the track.

Sorry my car's not for racing, it's for looks and for saving money in my pocket.

And as for your Vtec killer cams. Did you not read? It's made for vtec engines.

Any car with some port work and cams can be fast.

It's like saying throwing NOS and TURBO on your car and saying it's faster than a Stock B series.

Sorry, I didn't actually mean YOUR car... I meant your vtec car, as in whoever with a vtec. Hey, I don't like it because everyone else does, and I see those stupid B16s getting smoked by ls cars all the time. My point exactly though, you don't need this vtec crap, you need the beastly cams and better porting that vtec does not have stock. =] Well from the looks I could be saving some money.

[Si-rdc2]

if you going to be doing a ls your going to need to build it
b16 or type-R pistons
cower retainers and duel springs
port and polished head 3 angle valve job
skunk2 intake manifold
cai or short ram
cam gears
fuel pump
fpr
fuel rail
rc 310 injectors
chipped ecu
cams stage 2 or 3
b16 or gsr tranny
11 or 12 pound fly wheel and six puck
a good header not no dc header
i think thats about it oo and its not going to break 200 whp unless you use nos

[Zappythebum]

It might make 200hp, it will most likely make 180-190hp fully built with the setup you listed Si-rdc2.

To the OP:
205 WHP LS
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2176287 <-- good read if you want a beastly non-vtec engine. This thread has a lot of good information.

Official All Motor LS Thread
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php...=NON-VTEC+B18B <-- General Info on building an LS engine


keep up the good work, i'm planning on building my LS monster soon

[SergEK]

Originally Posted by fasst

Did you go to school?lol First line says I have a 91, which is a B18A1. Why throw, ITBs on it? I dunno, that's why I'm asking some people that hopefully know something about it. I hate vtec. No vtec. Everyone thinks that if it has vtec it is godly, all these swapped kids driving around with stock B16s need to get destroyed by a NA non-vtec (maybe some juice that no one knows about)... So Once again, I have a B18A1 will a manifold (ITBs) for a B18B work?

Your a noob

FYI VTEC is a must for a street car with any hopes of drivability

Can you make a non-vtec quick -- sure -- just like a lumpy idle 289 stang with high compression and a roller cam

An H2B swap is gonna smash your "wish list setup" ...if you plan on staying NA I would build myself a big block...like an H/F motor 2.3-2.4L

ITBs on a mild setup are kind of a waste but from what you are saying (OBX) it sounds more like a ricer list from some buzz words you have heard thrown around.

Back in the day guys with DA tegs were throwin carbs and nitrous on to go fast -- while you dont have to go carbs now (engine management to the rescue) ITBs take ALOT of tuning to be street friendly.

To me it sounds like your trying to go fast without vtec to prove something...its a little late bro...vtec killer cars have already gone 10s almost 10 years ago...your a little late to the party.

Any VTEC setup with the mods you want is gonna be faster and drive better. Non vtec setups work great at the track to eliminate oil pressure spikes and reduce valvetrain weight for more revs....on the street the primary cam is REALLY big and idle is high/lopey.

If your aiming to take out bolt-on B16 setups I would set my sights a little higher...build an H/F block so you can run with the big boys ...not 15-16 sec ricers

[FRESHTEG]

get rid of that heavy ass da, put your swap into a rex

[rayzah_blade]

ITB's on a non-vtec?? lol. why not just leave the throttle fully engaged with the intake on the head fully exposed... and a 5" exhaust. maybe some stage 10 cams, and some 2:1 pistons....BEAST!!!

[josh-roy]

If you want ITB's i hope you have money to tune each season, Heck even Temperature affects them... you can forget about street driving. Useless on the street and why build a non vtec car so you can be like every other stock DA, LS VTEC FTW!

[vladd]

Originally Posted by rayzah_blade

ITB's on a non-vtec?? lol. why not just leave the throttle fully engaged with the intake on the head fully exposed... and a 5" exhaust. maybe some stage 10 cams, and some 2:1 pistons....BEAST!!!

have you ever considered doing stand up comedy? if not, you really should .

[TonyRomo]

No honda is worth looking at without vtec. lol

[bhigh]

im just gonna add this in ther cuz i was too looking in to itb for mmy b18 b and i have a rex with gsr tranny and ls block and its prety much stock and gutted and i have 14" slicks and i ran a 14.87 braket racing

[vladd]

Originally Posted by bhigh

im just gonna add this in ther cuz i was too looking in to itb for mmy b18 b and i have a rex with gsr tranny and ls block and its prety much stock and gutted and i have 14" slicks and i ran a 14.87 braket racing

what's your point?

[voltageintegra2000]

i always herd bad things about obx... i mean its all over ebay... and ITBs are not a good idea on a street car... there isnt a good aftermarket IM for the ls because most of them are designed for high RPMs... might as well just keep your IM throw the cams you want on there and build up the top and bottom end if you want it to be any bit reliable... and stage 3 cams? your idle is going to be so rough.. your set up is more of a track only car. an ls will always get beat by vtec with the same mods.