I Thought I Knew EVERYTHING ITR RELATED...DIDNT KNOW THIS

[Rene1123]

[quote=srt4mike;40523681]Nah . . . the idea is to just quasi-troll until you finally push it to far and get banned. Then you just make another account. Rinse and repeat. You seem to be quite versed in that method.[/QUOT kk you troll

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[-PaulMc-]

Originally Posted by srt4mike

Why would you troll?

O shit, he's back.

[Sumslapper]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RECARO-Fabric-...#ht_2241wt_854

[dragon909boi]

wow 3k for rear seats...........no comment.......1/5 of the value of the R lies on the faith of those seats.......

[MiraiZ]

Originally Posted by Sumslapper

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RECARO-Fabric-...#ht_2241wt_854

SEVERLY PWNED!

Nice find!...So this proves two of my points. If this is real, than you CAN get Recaro fabric and reupholster your own seats red.

And if its fake, people on ebay will say anything to make a buck.

touche

[get RIGHT]

Its safe to say now that this myth has been Busted.

[cuonglogan]

Originally Posted by bluebomber

If you guys find a link on this mesh fabric, please let me know. I've been wanting to re-do my door panels, armrest and headliner but I haven't found anything for sale. Red or black or both is fine.

Quoted and in before bluebomber files a dispute with the previous owner for advertising counterfeit seats that only 2 exists

[bluebomber]

Thanks for the link sumslapper. I'll have them send me a sample to compare and see if it's the same fabric.

[cuonglogan]

These dont look that bad either

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Authe...ltDomainQ5f100

[Sumslapper]

There is a Recaro.uk site but I cant seem to find it at the moment. I will try to find it when I get off work. Im sure you can find it and contact them directly instead of hearing hater comments or tall tales and get your facts directly from the source. Good luck

[SoTexDC2]

Originally Posted by Sumslapper

There is a Recaro.uk site but I cant seem to find it at the moment. I will try to find it when I get off work. Im sure you can find it and contact them directly instead of hearing hater comments or tall tales and get your facts directly from the source. Good luck

This what you are looking for?

http://www.capitalseating.co.uk/prod...&appid=76&rid=

[Rene1123]

http://www.capitalseating.co.uk/prod...pid=400&type=s

[bluebomber]

Originally Posted by cuonglogan

These dont look that bad either

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Authe...ltDomainQ5f100

That's DC5 fabric, it's different than what the DC2 ITR seats have.

Originally Posted by Sumslapper

There is a Recaro.uk site but I cant seem to find it at the moment. I will try to find it when I get off work. Im sure you can find it and contact them directly instead of hearing hater comments or tall tales and get your facts directly from the source. Good luck

Thanks for being helpful. I'm familiar with Capital Seating, and I asked them about buying the mesh fabric already. If you read a few posts up, I posted the response I got. They said you can't buy that specific kind of fabric from them as it's licensed for sale to Honda only. You can buy the alcantara, but not the mesh.

[MiraiZ]

OMG...give me a break :rollseyes:

[get RIGHT]

Originally Posted by MiraiZ

OMG...give me a break :rollseyes:

Seriously.


bluebomber there just comes a time when you just gotta suck it up and admit to yourself, they aren't real but at least they look good. I suggest the mods should take down your FS post. We wouldn't want to decieve anybody.

[bluebomber]

Originally Posted by MiraiZ

OMG...give me a break :rollseyes:

I'll let you know if the kind from the eBay auction is the same as the kind on the JDM Recaros.

I found this place as a possible fabric source as well: http://www.on-trackperformance.com/

I am going to call tomorrow to find out if you can buy it from them.

Originally Posted by get RIGHT

Seriously.

bluebomber there just comes a time when you just gotta suck it up and admit to yourself, they aren't real but at least they look good. I suggest the mods should take down your FS post. We wouldn't want to decieve anybody.

Yeah, since my goal was to deceive people... I already took them off a couple days ago, so you won't need to worry about accidentally buying them. They're installed in my EJ1 right now

Thanks for all the interest though!

[MiraiZ]

I was gonna leave this alone but I did a search on Minkara (Japanese car owner's site similar to CarDomain.com)

I found a guy who did a side by side comparison of the SRIII (DC2) and SRIV (DC5) Recaros. He states that the that fabric is IDENTICAL. Since the seats in the pic are of different age, there is a slight color variation.

And sure, I can hear Recaro saying, "oh, we can sell you the red alcantara fabric through ebay and even advertise it as the fabric that Honda uses, but the mesh is special. You can't have that because it belongs to Honda "...yeah right, and as if it can't be found anywhere else...

[bluebomber]

Originally Posted by MiraiZ

I was gonna leave this alone but I did a search on Minkara (Japanese car owner's site similar to CarDomain.com)

I found a guy who did a side by side comparison of the SRIII (DC2) and SRIV (DC5) Recaros. He states that the that fabric is IDENTICAL. Since the seats in the pic are of different age, there is a slight color variation.

And sure, I can hear Recaro saying, "oh, we can sell you the red alcantara fabric through ebay and even advertise it as the fabric that Honda uses, but the mesh is special. You can't have that because it belongs to Honda "...yeah right, and as if it can't be found anywhere else...

That was an awesome post. I'm not saying the fabric is impossible to get, but I've been looking for over 5 years for some with no luck. I should have been more specific about the DC5 fabric. The link here I was replying to:

Originally Posted by cuonglogan

These dont look that bad either

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Authe...ltDomainQ5f100

That's the same fabric my friend had on his DC5 Integra door panels. I've don't recall seeing it anywhere else, but it's definitely not an exact match to the middle seat fabric.

[Sumslapper]

Have you tried to just contact Recaro directly? It seems silly they would offer the bolster fabric but not the middle tweed. Why would only the middle be so sacred?

[MiraiZ]

So here is his exact quote and I tend to find him more credible because he's posted pictures comparing the two, and he's not trying to sell anything:

そして、このＳＲⅢも月日と共に痛みが目立って来た為、この度ＳＲⅣへ交換する事にしました。早速またオー クションで程度の良いインテグラ（ＤＣ５）タイプＲ純正レカロＳＲⅣ２脚をゲット！早速ＳＲⅢと並べてみま した。上部の形状が違う他はほとんど同じです。生地も全く同じでレカロのロゴが黒から白になり多少大きくな っています。

translated: And because these SRIII have started to show wear and tear, I've decided to swap them for SRIV's. I immediately went to the auction, and looked for and acquired a set of Integra (DC5) OEM Type R SRVIV Recaros that are in good condition. I then immediately compared them to my SRIII's and found a minor difference in the headrest design. The Recaro lettering is now white and a bit bigger that the previous black lettering (on the SRIII), and the fabric is completely identical.

If you don't believe me, run it through a translator yourself. Again, from my own eyes, and having actually seen and touch the DC5 SRIV Recaro, I tend to find what this guy is saying to be true and that the 2 seats are made of the same fabric, hence the fabric that is being sold on the internet is more than likely to be the same as the DC2, if it is indeed Recaro who is selling it.

[bluebomber]

Originally Posted by Sumslapper

Have you tried to just contact Recaro directly? It seems silly they would offer the bolster fabric but not the middle tweed. Why would only the middle be so sacred?

Yes, I detailed it in this thread. They said they can't sell it.

Originally Posted by MiraiZ

So here is his exact quote and I tend to find him more credible because he's posted pictures comparing the two, and he's not trying to sell anything:


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translated: And because these SRIII have started to show wear and tear, I've decided to swap them for SRIV's. I immediately went to the auction, and looked for and acquired a set of Integra (DC5) OEM Type R SRVIV Recaros that are in good condition. I then immediately compared them to my SRIII's and found a minor difference in the headrest design. The Recaro lettering is now white and a bit bigger that the previous black lettering (on the SRIII), and the fabric is completely identical.

If you don't believe me, run it through a translator yourself. Again, from my own eyes, and having actually seen and touch the DC5 SRIV Recaro, I tend to find what this guy is saying to be true and that the 2 seats are made of the same fabric, hence the fabric that is being sold on the internet is more than likely to be the same as the DC2, if it is indeed Recaro who is selling it.

I agree with you. What I meant is that the eBay link cuonglong posted was not the same fabric as the DC2 Recaro. The holes are completely different. I'm sure the seat materials between DC2 and DC5 are the same, I didn't mean to imply otherwise.

The "avus" seems to be similar to what he posted, but I won't know until I get a sample.

Thanks for posting that, though. I didn't know the DC5 seats were called the SR4.

[a97b18b]

That ebay link is capital Seating...I like that you can get all new foam padding and pre stitched fabric to re due your recaro's. Even the back rest cover will even have the "recaro" logo. It'll cost a bit but at least you can re due your seats in the exact same fabric. Also they got seat covers which I'm trying to buy sometime

[SoTexDC2]

Originally Posted by bluebomber

Yeah, since my goal was to deceive people... I already took them off a couple days ago, so you won't need to worry about accidentally buying them. They're installed in my EJ1 right now

No you didn't, they are still listed for sale at the top of the ITR forum in the FS/WTB thread.
http://www.honda-tech.com/showpost.p...86&postcount=2

[SoTexDC2]

For a very short time, I worked at an Auto Trim Shop that did upholstery work, sunroofs, gold plating, and other various custom jobs. Our primary customers were local dealerships.

Occasionally our customers would send us brand new base model vehicles, with factory cloth seats, and have leather interior installed. We would trash the brand new cloth, source OEM style leather, and reupholster the seats, door panels, etc. This allowed dealerships to carry a smaller inventory and offer more options to their customer. The dealerships then sold these cars Brand New, with "OEM" options. The end buyer had no idea an Auto Trim shop around the corner was actually adding all of these "factory installed" or "OEM" options to their purchase.

Its quite possible that something similar may have taken place in Japan. If a buyer requested matching red rear seats, a motivated salesman may have gone to great lengths to make that a possibility, and insisted the seats were "OEM".

Just because HT is having a hard time sorcing the tweed fabric, I wouldn't discount the possibility that somebody was able to get their hands on some.

Bottom line, if the seats were not offered FROM THE FACTORY, as a factory installed item, I have a hard time classifying them as truly OEM.

[bluebomber]

Originally Posted by SoTexDC2

No you didn't, they are still listed for sale at the top of the ITR forum in the FS/WTB thread.
http://www.honda-tech.com/showpost.p...86&postcount=2

I forgot about that one; it's been removed already.

Originally Posted by SoTexDC2

For a very short time, I worked at an Auto Trim Shop that did upholstery work, sunroofs, gold plating, and other various custom jobs. Our primary customers were local dealerships.

Occasionally our customers would send us brand new base model vehicles, with factory cloth seats, and have leather interior installed. We would trash the brand new cloth, source OEM style leather, and reupholster the seats, door panels, etc. This allowed dealerships to carry a smaller inventory and offer more options to their customer. The dealerships then sold these cars Brand New, with "OEM" options. The end buyer had no idea an Auto Trim shop around the corner was actually adding all of these "factory installed" or "OEM" options to their purchase.

Its quite possible that something similar may have taken place in Japan. If a buyer requested matching red rear seats, a motivated salesman may have gone to great lengths to make that a possibility, and insisted the seats were "OEM".

Just because HT is having a hard time sourcing the tweed fabric, I wouldn't discount the possibility that somebody was able to get their hands on some.

Bottom line, if the seats were not offered FROM THE FACTORY, as a factory installed item, I have a hard time classifying them as truly OEM.

I agree with you. The only thing that would really prove if this was truly an OEM piece or not would be the sales brochure for 95-97 DB8 Type-R and see what options are listed.