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Old 03-14-2009, 08:25 AM   #1
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Default Front tire rub...What do you guys do to help?

Here's my setup.

-EJ6 w/ 15" Integra 'MESH' rims on 195/55/15 rubber
-Koni Yellow's front & Rear
-Neuspeed Sport Lowering springs

Originally, before I put the Koni's on the front of the car, the rear sat lower than the front. I than put my Koni's on yesterday and decided to put the springs on the lower spring perch setting and also did the pinch-fork trick where the shock body slips about 3/4" further into the lower pinch-fork.

After doing this my front end is SLAMMED. Like, there's just over an inch of tire showing as the rest is tucked up into the wheel well. It looks DIRTY, but the problem is the car was practically undriveable since the tires were rubbing on like everything.

After a quick test drive I jacked the car up, pulled the wheels off, and beat the hell out of my wheel wells and frame wherever the tire was rubbing or touched. I also had to cut up the splash guards quite a bit but it made a hell of a difference. The thing is though, its STILL rubbing a little bit. The drivers side tire is rubbing on the lower splash guard where it mounts into the wheel well by the front drivers side motor mount. It also rubs a bit on the edge of the fender when you're making right turns. The same for the right front tire on left turns, it rubs the fender.

So, what do you guys to to get these things not to rub?

My front's are now sitting at 21.75" from the center of the wheel arch to the ground. I'll post some pic's I took with my iPhone in a bit.

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Old 03-14-2009, 12:17 PM   #2
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Default Re: Front tire rub...What do you guys do to help?

You shouldn't be rubbing over everything. Get that mutha aligned first before you blame it on the drop
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Old 03-14-2009, 01:47 PM   #3
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You shouldn't be rubbing over everything. Get that mutha aligned first before you blame it on the drop
Are you kidding me? The alignment is 100% spot-on, it doesnt wonder around, there's ZERO excess tire wear and the car handles amazing.

It rubs when you turn lock to lock, its really low, thats what it does. I'm not "blaming the drop", i KNOW its the drop, when you go low, you rub, im asking what people do or modify/change to help it not rub.
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Old 03-14-2009, 02:22 PM   #4
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Default Re: Front tire rub...What do you guys do to help?

It looks like a 50-series tire will fix that problem. Like 205/50/15 or a 195/50/15 tire.
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Old 03-14-2009, 02:48 PM   #5
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It looks like a 50-series tire will fix that problem. Like 205/50/15 or a 195/50/15 tire.
I think a 205/50/15 is the same overall size as the 195/55/15 i have now IIRC. Im sure the 195/50/15 would work, you're probably right...but than comes the speedo issues, haha, god dammit
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Old 03-15-2009, 07:41 AM   #6
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Default Re: Front tire rub...What do you guys do to help?

umm how about you raise the damn car up?? That lower spring perch setting is really for stock springs. By moving the perch down 1 inch, you actually got an additional 1.25"-1.5" drop at the tire, and then you added the shock fork trick to that. So your front is probably 2.25" lower than it originally was with just the springs. Of course it's going to rub, what did you expect??

Either do the shock fork trick with the spring perch at stock height, or vice versa. Don't do both.

Here's my Integra with STOCK front springs on the lower Koni perch. My stock wheels with 195/55-15 tires scraped when turning into uneven driveways until I smashed that metal seam under the fender. I have a set of stock ITR springs, but if I put those on, my front end would damn near be on the ground.

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Old 03-15-2009, 03:20 PM   #7
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Default Re: Front tire rub...What do you guys do to help?

sell the car lol jp.....take out the wheel well liner and use a 205/50/15 tire.the 195/55 tire your using is taller so its more in the fender.

that should take car of your problem.rubbing is not bad we all rubb iam sure.
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yea bro if your gonna be slammed lose the wheel well liners, you cant have em, i cut mine just enough to cover my door jams, throw the rest out, you have to have a 195/50/15 at least slam, i ride DUMPED as shit on 195/50/15's 205's are too wide for the rears without a roll job if your gonna dump. I rub still when i turn because my oil pan slap's the ground at least once a day. you gott pay to ride dirty
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Default Re: Front tire rub...What do you guys do to help?

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The alignment is 100% spot-on, it doesnt wonder around, there's ZERO excess tire wear and the car handles amazing.
No...it's not. You adjusted the height of the car so now the alignment specs are different than before.

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It rubs when you turn lock to lock, its really low, thats what it does. I'm not "blaming the drop", i KNOW its the drop, when you go low, you rub, im asking what people do or modify/change to help it not rub.
Roll/pull fenders, cut splash guards, add camber, etc.
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Default Re: Front tire rub...What do you guys do to help?

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It rubs when you turn lock to lock, its really low, thats what it does. I'm not "blaming the drop", i KNOW its the drop, when you go low, you rub, im asking what people do or modify/change to help it not rub.
Most people just live with the rubbing, until it creates it own clearance (wears through the plastic fender liner).

I just avoid turning the wheel to full lock, but I do have clean spots from tire rub when I can't avoid it. Since it only happens entering and leaving driveways (when else would I be at full lock?) and speed is minimal anyway, a little rubbing doesn't do any real damage.
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