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regamaster · 12-27-2007, 08:38 PM

I wanted to pass on this little dyno info. Some of you may know us and
can see what we have been up to on our off season prep for 2008.

The motor items are as followed:

Darton Sleeves
89mm Bore
103mm Go Power Motorsports Crank
Arias Pistons
Skunk2 Valve Springs/ Retainers
Skunk2 Stage 3 Cams
Ported Head
54mm TWM ITBs
RC 750cc Injectors
Fuel: E-85 ethanol
Tuned on Hondata
Torco SR5 Oil

There have been some people discussing the issue that the Skunk2 Cams do not make power for the K motors. We have a different opinion. These are literally off the shelf cams. This motor is still not tuned fully as we ran into some oil pump issues and had to stop. This engine was built in conjunction with Go Power Motorsports (www.go-pwr.com)

UPDATED DYNO:

We feel we have reached the potential of these Skunk2 Stage 3 cams as the car would flat line after 8000 rpm.

Hope you all enjoy !

-John

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n1_egsex · 12-27-2007, 08:50 PM

nice power

SpeedDreamz.com · 12-27-2007, 08:51 PM

That is good power. What kind of oil pump issues? I had some oiling issues too , just want to see if they are related.

Humble Performance · 12-27-2007, 08:57 PM

regamaster · 12-27-2007, 09:01 PM

We were losing pressure at 7500 rpm... dry sump system.

SVPxJOHN2xDNRx5181 · 12-28-2007, 12:13 AM

Really nice power. Hope you guys figure out the oil roblems. I always knew that the Skunk2 cams were one of the best out there. I have a few friends myself that are running their stage 2 cams in their mild built k swaps and make high 200s to low 300 whp. But I have not seen charts on motors that have been built like the one you have posted.

IT'S ME DAVID · 12-28-2007, 01:00 AM

we dyno tested these exact off the shelf skunk 2 stage3 against the ips k10 the skunk2 made more power and tq throught the enitre powerband!!

SpeedDreamz.com · 12-28-2007, 05:13 AM

I knew that. I have a set of these S2 stg3 for sale also. I love the way they idle.

WHTZ · 12-28-2007, 06:09 AM

What compression is the pistons?

jdm_ef9 · 12-28-2007, 06:54 AM

Very nice setup!

Skunk2

AST · 12-28-2007, 07:29 AM

Have Jeff look into the way the oil holes are drilled in the crank. It is possible to position the holes so that the oil is SUCKED OUT of the main bearings... which leads to low oil pressure on the top end.

Nikos · 12-28-2007, 07:34 AM

Congrats and good luck !

cotorresgee · 12-28-2007, 07:55 AM

good stuff!!!!

bamboosted · 12-28-2007, 08:06 AM

nice numbers

DARKB20 · 12-28-2007, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bamboosted

nice numbers

x2

seen4ever · 12-28-2007, 09:26 AM

amazing power, I assume the stg3 require a good deal of compression to optimize the power out of them?

I've got a k20r block with IPS K2s and have been thinking of getting a bigger cam lately, but didn't know if i'd need to ditch the stock pistons to get some more compression to get them to go.

dlcracing · 12-28-2007, 09:40 AM

Nice!

asol2nv · 12-28-2007, 09:57 AM

Good stuff

six sigma racing · 12-28-2007, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seen4ever

amazing power, I assume the stg3 require a good deal of compression to optimize the power out of them?

I've got a k20r block with IPS K2s and have been thinking of getting a bigger cam lately, but didn't know if i'd need to ditch the stock pistons to get some more compression to get them to go.

Not to thread jack or anything but heres a baseline graph of a stock block k20Z1 block that i played with...

Stock k20Z1 block
Stock rods
Stock Pistons
DNR ported head
Skunk spring
Skunk Retainers
SKunk stage 3 cams
TWM 52mm ITBs
44cc injector
SSR 4-1 20gauge race header
no drive belt assembly

5th pass on this motor...
1600bls with driver
i know car has MPH to run high 10.4s

SKUNK2

2fast4u831 · 12-28-2007, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by six sigma racing

44cc injector

lies!!

nice power both you guys!

b18avtec(A!!M0TOR) · 12-28-2007, 12:54 PM

K POWER

Skunk 2

EP3FAMILY · 12-28-2007, 12:58 PM

That's a nice Graph.

regamaster · 12-28-2007, 10:43 PM

Compression is 14.8:1 Arias

Fuster_Cluck · 12-29-2007, 05:26 AM

Amazing power

How reliable is this kind of setup for a weekend warrior?

team1320_k26eg · 12-29-2007, 05:34 AM

good stuff john

did you experiment with other sources of fuel before E-85?

12-27-2007, 08:50 PM	#2
n1_egsex * B A N N E D * My Garage Join Date: May 2007 Location: N1Concepts, Ca, USA Posts: 3,555	Re: Dyno K-Series Race Motor with Skunk2 Stage 3 Cams (regamaster) nice power

12-27-2007, 08:51 PM	#3
SpeedDreamz.com Member My Garage Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, Al, usa Posts: 5,192	Re: Dyno K-Series Race Motor with Skunk2 Stage 3 Cams (regamaster) That is good power. What kind of oil pump issues? I had some oiling issues too , just want to see if they are related. __________________ Mobile Electronics and Performance, Tuscaloosa, Alabama 205-554-1554

12-27-2007, 08:57 PM	#4
Humble Performance Member My Garage Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK, U.S. Posts: 2,567	Re: Dyno K-Series Race Motor with Skunk2 Stage 3 Cams (SpeedDreamz.com) __________________ T4 CRX VIDEO 9.58@155 MPH 30 psi

12-27-2007, 09:01 PM	#5
regamaster Junior Member My Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Land of the Lost, usa Posts: 969	Re: Dyno K-Series Race Motor with Skunk2 Stage 3 Cams (SpeedDreamz.com) We were losing pressure at 7500 rpm... dry sump system.

12-28-2007, 12:13 AM	#6
SVPxJOHN2xDNRx5181 Junior Member My Garage Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: sunnyvale, ca, usa Posts: 760	Re: Dyno K-Series Race Motor with Skunk2 Stage 3 Cams (regamaster) Really nice power. Hope you guys figure out the oil roblems. I always knew that the Skunk2 cams were one of the best out there. I have a few friends myself that are running their stage 2 cams in their mild built k swaps and make high 200s to low 300 whp. But I have not seen charts on motors that have been built like the one you have posted. __________________ SPEED VELOCITY PERFORMANCExDNR PERFORMANCE STREET A/M EJ1 207.83whp/135tq 12.36e.t.@107.36mph w/ a 1.64 60 foot Weight:2105lbs.w/driver R.I.P. BERNARD "BERN-HARD/BLODDY B" PROFETA JR 9/79-3/08 *DUMPEDSTARS* http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2297879

12-28-2007, 01:00 AM	#7
IT'S ME DAVID Senior Member My Garage Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Victorville Ca Posts: 24,190	Re: Dyno K-Series Race Motor with Skunk2 Stage 3 Cams (n1_egsex) we dyno tested these exact off the shelf skunk 2 stage3 against the ips k10 the skunk2 made more power and tq throught the enitre powerband!! __________________ I <3 My Gizzerrr JERRYBUILT Nuff Said'

12-28-2007, 05:13 AM	#8
SpeedDreamz.com Member My Garage Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, Al, usa Posts: 5,192	Re: Dyno K-Series Race Motor with Skunk2 Stage 3 Cams (IT'S ME DAVID) I knew that. I have a set of these S2 stg3 for sale also. I love the way they idle. __________________ Mobile Electronics and Performance, Tuscaloosa, Alabama 205-554-1554

12-28-2007, 06:09 AM	#9
WHTZ Member My Garage Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Posts: 1,231	Re: Dyno K-Series Race Motor with Skunk2 Stage 3 Cams (regamaster) What compression is the pistons?

12-28-2007, 06:54 AM	#10
jdm_ef9 Member My Garage Join Date: May 2001 Location: City of Champions, PA Posts: 1,489	Re: Dyno K-Series Race Motor with Skunk2 Stage 3 Cams (WHTZ) Very nice setup! Skunk2 __________________ 1991 Civic - 2.3L H2B All Motor Street [bolisbuilt.] [RsTECH] [Supertech Performance] [Import Parts]

12-28-2007, 07:29 AM	#11
AST My Garage Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Juan Capistrano, California, USA Posts: 22	Re: Dyno K-Series Race Motor with Skunk2 Stage 3 Cams (regamaster) Have Jeff look into the way the oil holes are drilled in the crank. It is possible to position the holes so that the oil is SUCKED OUT of the main bearings... which leads to low oil pressure on the top end.

12-28-2007, 07:34 AM	#12
Nikos H-T Order of Merit My Garage Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,678	Re: Dyno K-Series Race Motor with Skunk2 Stage 3 Cams (AST) Congrats and good luck !

12-28-2007, 07:55 AM	#13
cotorresgee Junior Member My Garage Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas sometime in Ohio, usa Posts: 669	Re: Dyno K-Series Race Motor with Skunk2 Stage 3 Cams (regamaster) good stuff!!!! __________________ HYSTERIA RACING T/S COUPE DRIVER 10.42@136

12-28-2007, 08:06 AM	#14
bamboosted Junior Member My Garage Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MA Posts: 590	nice numbers __________________ DB8-LS/VTEC-T 11.2@ 124.79 60ft.-1.71-- Bone Stock motor http://www.turbooptions.com/vi...d.wmv EG6-Under constuction CRV-Daily beater 03 R6-Liquid silver RIP Totaled Old People driving NO NO TURBOOPTIONS.COM check it!

12-28-2007, 09:26 AM	#16
seen4ever Member My Garage Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Louisville, KY, US Posts: 2,093	Re: (DARKB20) amazing power, I assume the stg3 require a good deal of compression to optimize the power out of them? I've got a k20r block with IPS K2s and have been thinking of getting a bigger cam lately, but didn't know if i'd need to ditch the stock pistons to get some more compression to get them to go. __________________ attempting to go fast... http://www.seendata.com

12-28-2007, 09:40 AM	#17
dlcracing Junior Member My Garage Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Gardena Posts: 451	Re: Dyno K-Series Race Motor with Skunk2 Stage 3 Cams (regamaster) Nice!

12-28-2007, 09:57 AM	#18
asol2nv Junior Member My Garage Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: East Coast, NYC, US Posts: 462	Re: Dyno K-Series Race Motor with Skunk2 Stage 3 Cams (dlcracing) Good stuff __________________ DB Squad #296 : the Daily EJ1 - the money pit EG2 Del Sol - The cruiser

12-28-2007, 12:54 PM	#21
b18avtec(A!!M0TOR) Junior Member My Garage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: ca, usa Posts: 453	Re: (six sigma racing) K POWER Skunk 2 __________________ http://www.dynospotracing.com http://www.trackspeedracing.com 11.176@126.26 87x99 all motor street car!! THC

12-28-2007, 12:58 PM	#22
EP3FAMILY Junior Member My Garage Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: WHITTIER, CA, LA Posts: 94	Re: Dyno K-Series Race Motor with Skunk2 Stage 3 Cams (regamaster) That's a nice Graph. __________________ I manipulate my life through the characteristics of a machine.

12-28-2007, 10:43 PM	#23
regamaster Junior Member My Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Land of the Lost, usa Posts: 969	Re: Dyno K-Series Race Motor with Skunk2 Stage 3 Cams (WHTZ) Compression is 14.8:1 Arias

12-29-2007, 05:26 AM	#24
Fuster_Cluck Member My Garage Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: ATL to SAV to ORL, USA Posts: 7,480	Amazing power How reliable is this kind of setup for a weekend warrior? __________________ Pelican 1624 containing: 2 Gripped Canon 50D's, XT, XTi & XSi ♥ 10-22mm ♥ (2) - 18-55mm ♥ (2) - 50mm f/1.8 ♥ 24-105mm f/4L IS ♥ 70-200mm f/2.8L IS

12-29-2007, 05:34 AM	#25
team1320_k26eg Member My Garage Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 3,404	Re: (Fuster_Cluck) good stuff john did you experiment with other sources of fuel before E-85? __________________ Team 1320 est.1996 "No nuts no glory, You can't achieve your goals if you don't take that chance"

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